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    Zyneste Azurox
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Turing View Post
    Problem is, in all but the most edge of cases, using a Reprise for this purpose will waste more potency than it will gain. Riposte is stronger than Reprise by virtue of its recast, and Reprise is weaker than your GCDs on account of its potency.
    It seems to me that it goes like this. Wanna delay your Melee combo?

    5 seconds: Overcap your Mana. Do Not Reprise.
    10 seconds: Moulinet
    15 seconds: Riposte

    Its silly that a skill that is basically a mana dump, can't function as a positive mana dump, and is instead a mobility tool to only be used after Displace/Corps/Dualcast/Swiftcast has been exhausted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    If I just want to dump 10/10 Mana before I Manafication or spend a Verquick proc, Reprise is there.
    When looking at opportunity cost for DPS, you look at what the classes filler spell is. In the case of RDM the filler spell is the combination of Jolt II into VA/VT or VS/VF into VA/VT.

    So the average PPS for JII -> VA/VT is: (250 + 310) / 5 = 112.

    and the average PPS for JII -> VA/VT is: (270 + 310) / 5 = 116.

    Note that these casts do not even include how much the B/W mana are worth.

    The PPS of Reprise is: 220/2.2 = 100.

    Reprise has less potency than even your filler spell, which means it is in all cases a DPS loss, except when you need ABSOLUTE mobility, beyond the tools described. This will also be exagerated by the the lower natural recast from any SpS, since all weapon skills are not affected. An extreme example as well is that Reprise does the same PPS as Spamming Jolt II if not less from SpS and even less when you consider B/W mana gain. Its that low. Jolt II spam is a better option. [250/2.5 = 100PPS]

    This does not even count the 45-80+ potency from the B/W mana. At 300 potency it was in much better shape. A loss still, but not like this.

    Using it to dump your gauge before Manafiction to guarantee a proc, by preventing overcap from 50 50 won't be worth it. Youll lose 20 DPS + 3 B/W mana potency (about 40 at max) compared to the 70-110 potency loss from reprise [12*2.2 + 45-80 B/W man].
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    Last edited by Zyneste; 06-28-2019 at 11:05 AM.