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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    If you have both procs up anyway, I don't really see what the problem is - you could still dualcast Verstone into Veraero, and Verfire into Verthunder, each of which would lower the risk of refreshing a proc at a DPS loss anyway.
    If you're at 79|89 with both Verstone ready and Verfire ready, the appropriate Dualcast is Verstone-Verthunder, so you don't end up at 99|89 with Verfire ready, which would waste a guaranteed proc since the alternative is imbalance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    If you're at 79|89 with both Verstone ready and Verfire ready, the appropriate Dualcast is Verstone-Verthunder, so you don't end up at 99|89 with Verfire ready, which would waste a guaranteed proc since the alternative is imbalance.
    Uh, this result seems suspect. Did you mean Ver Aero?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Uh, this result seems suspect. Did you mean Ver Aero?
    Nope. Essentially, a chance of overwriting a proc is better than guaranteeing a proc gets overwritten, and there's still no mana wasted in that scenario, considering you end up at 88/100, so there's no potency loss beyond the chance of an overwritten proc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Uh, this result seems suspect. Did you mean Ver Aero?
    No, at 79|89 you shouldn't cast Verstone-Veraero because you'll end up with 99|89, with a Verfire Ready and a 50% chance of not having Verstone Ready and no way to get Verstone Ready (because Verholy will imbalance you at 40|09)

    If you use Verstone-Verthunder, you'll waste a 50% proc but you'll be at 88|100 with Verfire Ready and a 100% chance to get Verstone Ready from Verholy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    No, at 79|89 you shouldn't cast Verstone-Veraero because you'll end up with 99|89, with a Verfire Ready and a 50% chance of not having Verstone Ready and no way to get Verstone Ready (because Verholy will imbalance you at 40|09)

    If you use Verstone-Verthunder, you'll waste a 50% proc but you'll be at 88|100 with Verfire Ready and a 100% chance to get Verstone Ready from Verholy.
    I see. I misread. Thank you.
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