loot system for 24 man should use tokens in Shadowbringers

[Rasler_Heios]

Maybe add the option to use the current guaranteed drops (such as the coins from the Return to ivalice series) to allow you to buy the gears from a vendor. So in case you don’t get any from the chests, you can can collect coins. After several runs and coins you get the option to buy the gear you want.

[Metalwrath]

If anything it should be removed from 8 man.Not added to other content.
This kind of system that goes against everything about MMORPG drops.
The whole point is that everyone isnt supposed to be able to just casually get the gear they want like that.The whole system of trading in item x to get guranteed item you want just makes me cringe.
People want things too easy these days in games and implementing systems like this is giving in to those newer gamers.
You eliminate the concept of rare gear this way.

[Laerune]

Maybe add the option to use the current guaranteed drops (such as the coins from the Return to ivalice series) to allow you to buy the gears from a vendor. So in case you don’t get any from the chests, you can can collect coins. After several runs and coins you get the option to buy the gear you want.

This, I want this to be added to raids.

If the player does not loot an item, they get one at the end of the chest.

[Kuroka]

You eliminate the concept of rare gear this way.

LOOOOOL

Gear is unimportant throw away trash here, besides ultimates weapons which are just shiny everything else is basically worhtless or smt even dead on arrival (anemos stuff for example).

[Kaedan]

24man loot has become completely irrelevant apart from glamour since we got augmentations for crafted gear.

This has started in 4.3 and will likely continue - basically you can have a full set of gear equivalent in ilvl to what 24man gives you on day one of an odd-numbered patch (equal to tomestone, 10 behind augmented tomestone/raid)

About the only thing relevant from 24man is the weekly token for gear upgrades ... so if they really want to do something about people not giving a single care about 24man, let them fix what it drops before they fix how it drops.

Yeah, but token gear is pretty limited, due to the limitation on tokens. Orbonne gear is still quite useful for alts, as is the 380 gear from Alphascape. It's only really obsoleted for your main (since by now, most people who care have a full set of token gear/savage for their main). Sure, people with lots of time on their hands maybe have an alt in Scaevan gear, but the 380 and 390 certainly isn't "obsolete".

[CorbinDallas]

If anything it should be removed from 8 man.Not added to other content.
This kind of system that goes against everything about MMORPG drops.
The whole point is that everyone isnt supposed to be able to just casually get the gear they want like that.The whole system of trading in item x to get guranteed item you want just makes me cringe.
People want things too easy these days in games and implementing systems like this is giving in to those newer gamers.
You eliminate the concept of rare gear this way.

Yes, because I would love spending 6 months praying for rng to grace me with a single bis piece of gear only for it to be irrelevant in the next patch.

If this game used more horizontal progression it would work. But it doesn't, it's vertical and gear gets cycled out every 3-6 months with constant ilvl increases, making your point quite frankly, stupid.

[Wolwosh]

It might help if the game kept track of what jobs are in your party. It's pretty annoying when half of the chests you open has Ninja gear in it but nobody in your group plays Ninja

[CaptainLagbeard]

It might help if the game kept track of what jobs are in your party. It's pretty annoying when half of the chests you open has Ninja gear in it but nobody in your group plays Ninja

Sometimes it feels like the game knows exactly what is in the party, and goes out of it's way to not drop gear for the classes present. Tanks and Healers included.

[Kuroka]

I used to want the Orbonne tank gloves, did 5 runs as tank. on the last one Literally every possible other piece droped but not them... like, rly i need that 390 pants when im on 400...

[Barraind]

Yes, because I would love spending 6 months praying for rng to grace me with a single bis piece of gear only for it to be irrelevant in the next patch.

If this game used more horizontal progression it would work. But it doesn't, it's vertical and gear gets cycled out every 3-6 months with constant ilvl increases, making your point quite frankly, stupid.

I once went 3 expansions in EQ without upgrading my pants, because of the 3 different upgrades between what I had and what I got we saw 1 drop.

1. In 2ish years. (I have been informed we did see 2 drop one week I was on vacation, so we in fact did average 1 plate pants drop per expansion in that time)

That's when I became done with this kind of loot system in mmo's.