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    Noldornir's Avatar
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    Noldornir Feanor
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 69
    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I've been trying to get use to tanking in preperations for Gunbreaker. I've only been using PLD but even when OTing I'm bored out of my mind.

    Any suggestions?
    Depends, what makes it boring for you while off-tanking?
    When I OT i tend to behave like a DPS, there are not many occasions for me to do so. I take it as an opportunity to get accostumed to my rotation.

    As a personal opinion:

    In most games the OT role is often underrated (OT is often seen as the weaker tank) while in many, MANY occasions the OT does an harder job then a MT (like getting the aggro from a sudden wave of adds, pack em, turn em). This is usually VERY fast and much more skill demanding than surviving a boss.

    If you play with a MT mate you could also work something togheter and "tank as one" (especially since you are a PAL) with not only tank swaps but also intervention/cover.

    Also when they say that you should not MT they are actually saying "do not pull, you generate less burst-enmity than any other tank, there's the risk than in the first few seconds some DPS/healer will out-enmity you". This doesn't mean you should not "main tank" (tank the boss). It IS a perfectly valid option to make a WAR pull than shirk on you (especially < lvl 50 where all your combo WILL be Rage of Halone that will continue on generating aggro).

    Tbh I started noticing this enmity "issue" with PAL only around level 55-60 (never had enmity issues before)

    What level are you now? (Paladins tend to change A LOT and have little to do until level 55/60 as an off-tank).

    BTW you can pull, you just loose some DPS for swapping stance (GCD) and delaying your rotation while other tanks does it faster.

    If you want to MT just start a boss fight in shield oath->shield lob->Rage of Halone combo (2x)
    Probably you'll get a block by this time and you can use shield swipe oGCD inbetween for more aggro

    check on enmity and all the others should be next to 0% (if not they are probably to blame)

    Swap to sword stance and start your standard rotation

    This will delay your rotation (and lower your damage for 30 secs or so) but you shouldn't loose aggro in any circumstances (even with obsolete equipment).
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    Markov Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noldornir View Post
    Depends, what makes it boring for you while off-tanking?
    I think it's the fact that I mostly play DPS. My main is SAM. And the rotations for tanking / off-tanking just don't feel as complex to me? Then again I get bored easy which is why I tend to switch jobs a lot in Roulettes to keep it fresh somewhat. So maybe it's just the fact I've been using PLD only to try and prepare for Gunbreaker. Or my depression is kicking in and making things more boring than they are. Who knows lol. God I wish Gunbreaker had been a DPS ; ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I think it's the fact that I mostly play DPS. My main is SAM. And the rotations for tanking / off-tanking just don't feel as complex to me? Then again I get bored easy which is why I tend to switch jobs a lot in Roulettes to keep it fresh somewhat. So maybe it's just the fact I've been using PLD only to try and prepare for Gunbreaker. Or my depression is kicking in and making things more boring than they are. Who knows lol. God I wish Gunbreaker had been a DPS ; ;
    Well that depend a lot on level then:

    - Below lvl 50 OT as a PAL is boring (you have one combo so you'll like be spamming two buttons)
    - During lvl 50/60 it gets better 'cause you get access to your DPS skills and combos (Spirit Within, Circle of Scorn, Goring Blade, Royal Authorithy)
    - From lvl 60/70 it gets DEFINELY better as you'll complete your offensive toolkit (Requiescat, Holy Spirits)

    I find it actually quite fun to play when you hit 60+, you will probably still find the rotations quite easy compared to a DPS (must be because you are supposed to be quite busy in the tanking as well such as positioning, packing, mitigating and such).

    I advise you to MT or stick in 4-man parties until lvl 60; some player won't let/could bother you MTing an 8 man raid but since your only combo in a leveled 50 is RoH you could gently ask if you should just watch the boss (or riot-blade spam maybe?).

    WAR/DRK WILL have their DPS combos at 50 and there's no point in avoid MT at THAT point for you (usually other pulls 'cause PAL loose more DPS/time in building aggro but that's not true until late game).
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