Thread: The Normal Raid Loot System Needs To Change.

I very rarely post, I lurk, I read, I share nonsense with my pals sometimes but the more I think about the loot system in Savage the more I want it for the normal difficulty. Mind you I don't mean that in an 'As well' stance, I mean it as a total replacement. Perhaps I'm just suggesting this or trying to introduce the thought to the community due to my failed 30+ runs of trying to get a 380 ring for my alt to do content with friends on another Data Center and still having to get every other piece of gear, but it can't hurt.

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Why should THAT person not trying, dying 5+ times a run and making people wait 2 - 3 minutes before finally rolling to win it get loot? It isn't fair and it's demoralising. Every time it happens it makes me want to play less and less.

Each run should reward a normal version of a Datalog / Book / Page so that people aren't forced to run more than once per accessory, two or four times per left side. I think that not only would it give players incentive to go back and do older raids outside of Normal Raid Roulette, but also to help gear off jobs if they aren't savage raiders, or only raid with their static.

This would also help people who just want the gear for glam so that they aren't taking away from players that might need these drops to get passed an iLevel gate. Newer players especially.

It's baffling to me, I want this change. For glam, for off jobs, for newer players. This 1 in 8 chance per token, per run is gratingly irritating. It would increase the activity in raids in each expansion where this would be implemented so in no way would it kill the content either.

What are your thoughts? Did you have something similar or different in mind? Or do you thrive off of the salt this loot system brings?

Originally Posted by Canadane

So is your complaint that under-achievers get the same loot rights, or is it that people wait out the timer?

My complaint is that the loot system doesn't feel good because of the frequency of those types players. Keep in mind I'm not talking about new players or first time bonus folk, it's very clear to see when a player isn't even trying and just making it harder on everybody.

Sounds like the problem is the players not the loot system. This is what happens when the game does little to make people learn to play the game

If they did add that system then no one would be inclined to run the content beyond their first clear, making it worse for people who have limited play time. Would it be nice? sure. but queue time bottleneck later in the week would not help.

IMO it needs to change somehow because too frequently I end up running it 20-50 times in week to get 1 drop while the people that spent most of the battle dead roll a 90+ and walk off with loot.

Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

If they did add that system then no one would be inclined to run the content beyond their first clear, making it worse for people who have limited play time. Would it be nice? sure. but queue time bottleneck later in the week would not help.

I wouldn't want them to limit non-savage raid gear to once per week either, it'd have to just straight up work like Primal Totems. One per run, from the get go. People would play more raids much more often, nothing would bottleneck. On top of that nobody would be taking away from each other, for glam, for alts, for off jobs, for main jobs. Everybody stands to gain and it makes the Normal Raid Roulette more active too. It'd snatch tanks and healers into DPS queues, and the sporadic nature of 'wanting glam' would probably persist through the entire expansion.

it's because the content can be run ad nauseum is why the system is the way it is. if there was a restriction on just running normal raids there would be a different loot system.

Originally Posted by Starblessed

I wouldn't want them to limit non-savage raid gear to once per week either, it'd have to just straight up work like Primal Totems. One per run, from the get go. People would play more raids much more often, nothing would bottleneck. On top of that nobody would be taking away from each other, for glam, for alts, for off jobs, for main jobs. Everybody stands to gain and it makes the Normal Raid Roulette more active too. It'd snatch tanks and healers into DPS queues, and the sporadic nature of 'wanting glam' would probably persist through the entire expansion.

It wouldn't be the same amount per item tho.. It would be a lot more runs. Like, a LOT more. Otherwise people could have every job geared in a couple days and then the queues would be dead.

I don't want to run 99 times to get the body, 25 for a ring, 50 for hands...

How do you know that person isn't trying lol just because they die? Thats almost never true not even a bit or don't tell me your one of those ppl who think everyone learns the fight by videos. Raid activity wouldn't increase it would decrease if that was done dealing with uptight ppl is annoying as it is .. if this was done id just skip it completely as most normal dungeons got better styles..