What if DNC is SHOMHOW a DPS?

[Kazrah]

However, in FFXIV, it has been said in the astro quests that geomancers are like astros but they draw their power from the star below (aka. the planet we're on) as opposed to the stars above.
So yeah, taken at face value, they do kinda sound like white mages but they aren't really =)

Lorewise, that was what was explained. Mechanically and philosophically within XIV though, they're just the Conjurer class with a fresh coat of paint. Swap elementals with spirits and boom, "geomancer".

That's why I've always tried suggesting that the Hingan geomancers we see are kinda like the Ishgardian astrologians: an initial red herring, and if players got the job, it'd be far more appealing than what we see from current NPCs. That's why I'm hoping for if we get geomancers that they be themed around magnetism so they can say "those Hingans don't know $#%&!"

[Maero]

It would be complete and utter bs in my opinion, and other games it was support with healing abilities. And i agree with what some had mention, chakram for weapon.
And why are so many all of a sudden on the Geomancer train? It really has not seen much talk in FFXIV until Stormblood really were it was referenced and had Geo NPC. This is not to argue, just curious really.

[NorthernLadMSP]

This is just...untrue, tbh. World of Warcraft, Wildstar, SWTOR, TERA...just the surface of games I could list that had pretty interesting, varied healer design. Just because XIV copy-pastes the same 300-600 potency heals on all its healers doesn't mean that's the only way it can be done.

DCUO also has wildly varying healing styles that make each style incredibly unique and fun.

[Rinion]

Further explanation and possible idea

Noted ^.^ Also, the magnetism thing does sound kinda cool whilst being a kinda different way to represent it.

And why are so many all of a sudden on the Geomancer train? It really has not seen much talk in FFXIV until Stormblood really

Tbh, I think this is precisely why. It's just popped up more frequently since SB so it's on people's minds more =)

[CaptainLagbeard]

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Well, FF XIV bard, their decision to link to the Archer class was fairly questionable.

And the whole class to job system stopped being a thing after ARR, but they probably can't go back and get rid of the base classes at this point... Kind of wonder would they do Bard differently if they could make it have nothing to do with Archer.



But overall, my main statement still remains that they should do a new Healer, but I don't think the new healer should be Dancer.

[Vespar]

Another job reveal along with DNC is still also possible... Geomancer. Not saying it'll happen but it is already in the lore...
Dancer doesnt have to be a healer or a dps. I dunno if I really have a preference. I remember DNC in XI fondly as it was my main, but Im open to new things.

[Kaedan]

Another job reveal along with DNC is still also possible... Geomancer. Not saying it'll happen but it is already in the lore...
Dancer doesnt have to be a healer or a dps. I dunno if I really have a preference. I remember DNC in XI fondly as it was my main, but Im open to new things.

I don't think Geomancer will become a playable job though. From the AST quests, it seems the powers of Geomancers are very close to those of AST... so it would basically be the same job with a different skin.

[Deceptus]

Stop even remotely getting your hopes up about this. DPS have had 4 years in the sun.

Let tanks and healers have a chance.

[loreleidiangelo]

DCUO also has wildly varying healing styles that make each style incredibly unique and fun.

So did Dark Age of Camelot, though that was arguably because of a variety of things like the build/skill system as well as the heavy PVP focus of the game allowing more niche support-esque classes and CC bots like Theurgist/Minstrel to be a thing.

DAOC is a bit of an oldie though, and I thought keeping my examples restricted to newer games might help readers relate better. I mean, I'll be honest, even in TERA their healers DPS a ton, but a lot of it either comes with pretty high risk (Shocking Implosion into Fiery Backstep on Priest for instance, Metamorphic Smite on both healers), high opportunity cost (Mystic's Thrall of Wrath being a TEN-MINUTE COOLDOWN that deals massive damage), or applies a valuable buff/debuff component that still makes you "feel" like a supporting/healing player even though you're hitting the boss (Corruption Ring on Mystic sucks HP from nearby enemies which then gets converted to positive MP for your party, and Energy Stars gives your party a crit buff and attack speed buff whenever it hits an enemy). I think there's absolutely ideas Square can borrow or take inspiration from when it comes to making healer gameplay in XIV feel better and more rewarding, without being a direct copy of those games or turning us into the dreaded "healbots" (even though I think that term is extremely specious and should die in a fire). The problem is that they seem afraid to branch out and both a.) make healers possible to fail at in this game outside of dying to mechanics, and b.) deconstruct every healer's kit a bit so that they're not good at everything and have actual strengths and weaknesses outside of "herp derp do I buff rDPS".

[Reinha]

How I would react to no new healer:

my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined