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  1. #41
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    The real question should be is the Job the right Job for that Job Role.

    IF SE just slaps on any job into Healer and Tank Job just because they need a Healer and Tank Job, they may go a bit too far just to satisfy the demand for more Tank and Healer
    While I do agree with this, it is not the case with DNC. It is viable as a healer and I say that not as a healer main, but an mmo player (I do play all three roles).

    I think that DNC can be designed in a way to fit either the healer or DPS roles, but because the game does need a new healer especially after the announcement of a new tank; it just make sense for the devs to go the healer direction. I feel it would be a missed opportunity otherwise. If we get GEO instead, or something that would clearly be just another caster, they are throwing that opportunity right into the trash.
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  2. #42
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Can you please stop using this absurd line of reasoning? It's divisive, and creates an imaginary argument. The game is meant for multi-classing.
    "This game is meant for multi-classing" says all of the DPS demanding that the next class be DPS or else. "This game is meant for multi-classing," says all of the DPS complaining that Gunbreaker is a tank, and not a DPS.

    I can't even get 90% of the DPS in my FC to even consider rolling a tank or a healer, even though we have enough players to field three whole groups on our EX farming nights - they'd rather take their chances and get into one group a weekend since we only have 3 healers and 3 tanks, not even enough for two groups to go at a time. Tanking and healing "just isn't fun" to them. Which is fine - but it's in direct opposition of "this game is meant for multi-classing".

    DPS queues say otherwise, too: 25-45m versus 5m, max (for anything other than alliance raids). That's a lot more than can be accounted for by the context of "there's twice as many dps as healers/tanks for 4/8-mans".

    I have two healers, two dps and a tank at 70. My next 70 is going to be either a DPS or a tank (I think I like PLD more than DRK). I have no issues multiclassing - but I have issues in the fact that I keep being told that it's not fair that I want another class of my preferred role. Especially when it's DPS telling me to "stop being divisive."

    No. Stop being selfish.
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  3. #43
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Play every job. Play every role. If you don't enjoy one of the three healers, but only want to play healer, maybe don't play FFXIV. It's just a truth of this game's design that it will be much harder to add interesting, diverse healers. And FFXIV is not alone, other games have the same problem. See also: Overwatch.

    There's only so many ways to make "wave your hands, restore numbers" interesting. Meanwhile, there's countless ways to represent swinging a weapon and subtracting numbers. Or shooting and subtracting numbers. It's not some sort of favoritism. It's just straight up harder to make healers diverse.

    Also, SE didn't help by painting themselves into a corner with assuming tanks would be wearing plate for tankbusters, and healers would always be on the backline for healer-targeting mechanics.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    "This game is meant for multi-classing" says all of the DPS demanding that the next class be DPS or else.
    I main warrior.

    Also strawman: I haven't demanded anything. I'm quite happy with what I've got.
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    Last edited by Floortank; 02-08-2019 at 07:10 AM.

  5. #45
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    Chloe Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
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    Well I already said in the past I expect Dancer to be a Healer since one of the unique types of Magic in Fantasy series for Support Magic is dance magic which are magic that cast by performing body movements instead of saying words nor writing magical symbols.

    Other is Song Magic but that is covered by Bard. However, Songstress Job will be a interesting Job to introduce as the next Healer Job for a Song Magic theme Healer.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 02-08-2019 at 07:11 AM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Have you not played FFVI or FFT? It was definitely a DPS job in its early days.
    Calling dancers dps in tactics would be like calling white mages tanks in tactics because sometimes stuff might hit them.

    Dancers debuffed. I guess they also moved around too, but they didnt really have to do that, because dances hit everyone.
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  7. #47
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    Magni Henriksson
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    I’d be really confused. What would the LB3 be?
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    I’d be really confused. What would the LB3 be?
    ROCK MUSIC!
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    ROCK MUSIC!
    Are you sure it wouldn't be: Death Metal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    I’d be really confused. What would the LB3 be?
    A rave


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