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    BubblyBoar's Avatar
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    Xyno Edajos
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    I'd prefer Dancer is an alternative to Ninja while we get Geomancer as a healer.
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    Geomancer as a healer.
    Isn't that just White Mage but with a bell?
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    Lapiz Lazuli
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Isn't that just White Mage but with a bell?
    Ish. Historically geomancers can use basically all the elements depending on where they are (but hey, black mages can usually use more than 3 so yeah). On top of the fact that they (iirc) tend to be damage dealers.
    However, in FFXIV, it has been said in the astro quests that geomancers are like astros but they draw their power from the star below (aka. the planet we're on) as opposed to the stars above.
    So yeah, taken at face value, they do kinda sound like white mages but they aren't really =)
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinion View Post
    However, in FFXIV, it has been said in the astro quests that geomancers are like astros but they draw their power from the star below (aka. the planet we're on) as opposed to the stars above.
    So yeah, taken at face value, they do kinda sound like white mages but they aren't really =)
    Lorewise, that was what was explained. Mechanically and philosophically within XIV though, they're just the Conjurer class with a fresh coat of paint. Swap elementals with spirits and boom, "geomancer".

    That's why I've always tried suggesting that the Hingan geomancers we see are kinda like the Ishgardian astrologians: an initial red herring, and if players got the job, it'd be far more appealing than what we see from current NPCs. That's why I'm hoping for if we get geomancers that they be themed around magnetism so they can say "those Hingans don't know $#%&!"
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    Kaname Dropscythe
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    Why not both? (highly unlikely but still...)
    If BLU was a proper, not limited, DPS, this probably wouldn't have been a problem.
    At first I thought they were going to introduce multi-role jobs with the announcement of BLU but I guess it would've been too much work.
    It would have been cool though if DNC could switch between DPS and healer but alas, it would require a great amount of development time.
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    Tal Young
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    DNC healer and BLU as a real caster would have been nice.

    4 casters 4 healers 4 tanks 4 melee, such symmetry! (and 2 ranged physical but can't have it all.)

    The 4 melee DPS having 3 separate gear types while the rest all share 1 among themselves really triggers me though. Yoshi plz fix!
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    I personally don't mind if dancer is a DPS or healer, I'd just like a new healer in 5.0 XD I'd prefer Chemist but I don't mind the thought of dancer being implemented as a healer either. As others have said, both jobs have the potential to bring something a little different to the healing role (the most common idea being that they could be non robe wearing non casters). Either way, as the OP said, the leaker has been right about basically everything else so Dancer is a fairly safe assumption and I personally feel the assumption that it'll be a healer is also a fairly safe bet.
    And, to add to whether a job is in a specific role matters or not, it does and it doesn't. It really depends on the player. I don't mind branching out into tank and DPS but I almost always play healers (just personal preference really). As such, when a job i prefer gets added to DPS I know instantly that I won't be playing it as much as I'd like. On the other side, there is the fact that this game does allow you to play anything on any character and that does mean that if you simply like the aesthetic, the role doesn't matter (and as someone else said in this thread, switching roles is the true variety in the gameplay). I know people who switch roles far more often than I do but I also know people who just stick with 1 or 2 jobs (both in the same role). That's why it does and doesn't matter which role a job gets added to (but seeing as it does and doesn't I'd lean towards the fact that it does).
    Just my thoughts =)
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    Avnus Vabruyt
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    Diabolos
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    I want DNC to be a healer but a melee healer or at least a gimmick that pushes them into going into the frontlines like how RDM has it's moment jumping into the frontlines. I also want DNC to be the opposite of AST in terms of utility as in instead of buffing the party they debuff the enemy.

    As for the players saying that DNC has traditionally a support role I see no reason why that should prevent it from being a healer. I mean in XI it had heals and though I couldn't be the main healer it still had the option to heal so all they would be doing this time is focusing more on heals rather then support. Plus if XIV has shown us anything a job doesn't need to follow past iteration that closely or at all. Look at DRK in past games it has always a DPS not a tank, SCH in XI was kinda like RDM where it could do both white and black magic but now it's just a healer with a fairy that it never had before.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    It would be complete and utter bs in my opinion, and other games it was support with healing abilities. And i agree with what some had mention, chakram for weapon.
    And why are so many all of a sudden on the Geomancer train? It really has not seen much talk in FFXIV until Stormblood really were it was referenced and had Geo NPC. This is not to argue, just curious really.
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    Last edited by Maero; 02-08-2019 at 10:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Further explanation and possible idea
    Noted ^.^ Also, the magnetism thing does sound kinda cool whilst being a kinda different way to represent it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    And why are so many all of a sudden on the Geomancer train? It really has not seen much talk in FFXIV until Stormblood really
    Tbh, I think this is precisely why. It's just popped up more frequently since SB so it's on people's minds more =)
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