Il Mheg 1/2 of two mirrored zones?

[fay2]

Fae in my mind 1st divide down Seelie(light) and Unseelie(dark) line

Base on the speculation that its Il Mheg is part of the 1st shard so most likely a Seelie version
I'm left wondering if we will get a dark high magic version mirrored zone of Il Mheg?
One from the 13th shard a Unseelie version of the area maybe named Ad Mheg or something such

light* thg-IL Mheg dark* kr-AD Mheg

That because the fae are stated as masters of arcane. If your shard is suffering a calamity and you had the magic ability to remove you from the calamity by making it split of from that shard as a sort of mini bubble realm away from the shard it was split maybe even hidden nearer to the source.
Then it stands to reason that Unseelie Fae from the 13th shard did the same before the flood of darkness befell the 13th shard and a dark version has been hidden all this time. To me this make sense unseelie are more likely to shun outsiders.

sure questions come from it some might answer other questions

Maybe this is why the 13th shards flood of darkness didn't trigger an rejoining of the 13th shard there was a piece that escaped it?

Maybe the primal is needed to achieve this hence titain? it's world ending stuff for a shard if a calamity happens so to hell with the risks sort of thing.

[DamianFatale]

You might be onto something. Im in serious doubt over these complex time travel series, but this one might make sense.

[fay2]

A few parallels have been made in game between what is happening on the 1st has happened on the 13th in a similar manor only with darkness as opposed to light.

We also know the Ascians see what happen on the 13th shard as an abject failure, but our view points has always been that the tipped balance to darkness was the soul issue that the asciens see the it was a failure with what happened. This might be important to Elidibus being that he is charged with balance but not necessarily a view held by all Ascians. However this line of thought opens up another maybe more pointed reason why all the Ascians see what happened on the 13th as a failure.

One core thing that all Ascians seem to see is;
rejoining = success

So stands to reason they view further sundering as a failure.

The idea of splitting a piece of that shard as a sort of mini bubble realm away from its shard is an act of sundering, so a failure in ascian eyes.

Speculating from there- Maybe this act of causing an addition sundering on a separate shard prior to, or at the moment of calamity on that shard, postpones/haltes even forestalles the rejoining from taking place as the shard is not hole to be rejoined, and the ascians need it to be hole to return it to the source? reasons?, so a even greater failure as a success was snatched from them.

This I can see all Ascians seeing the events of 13th as the true and utter failure no rejoining plus a sunderring.

To top it of if the 13th fae are unseelie the Ascians influence would be near impossible short of outsiders stumbling upon them dew to them out right shunning outsiders and likely sealing them selves off.
So the Ascians are left playing a really long game there something ascians are fine playing but left on a a backfoot and a blitter taste in their mouths.

Now speecking of long games I can see Elidibus directing lesser ascians to get the 1st shard to a mirrored point to the 13th in hopes of casing both 1st and 13th shards to rejoin at once to have a balance in light and dark. A twin calamity.

However this path leads to a possible second out right failure for the ascians on the 1st if the seelie pixies inact a sundering to save themselves and their home Il Mheg and in turn preventing a rejoining.
The Ascians learned from what the pixies are likely to do from events on the 13th, I can see setting into motion away for outsiders to find the 1st shards sundered bubble realm (maybe splinter better wording for this bubble) " Il Mheg " with the goal to have them find the 13th's missing splinter the "Ad Mheg" in turn so that they may have these splinters rejoined to their respective shards so that the hole shard might be rejoined to the source. Or the Ascains hope to guide the splinter of the 1st to come in contact with the 13th's splinter so that they might exert influence over events on the 13th's splinter to achieve their goals.

[fay2]

As well as this may even explain any Ascian influence of events in eureka if their goal was someone might stubble on this spilter of the 13th shard? with the study of the rejoining. It failed in the end to achive that goal however or maybe its be just one step in finding it.

The end out come these splinters prevent the shards from rejoining so long as they exist

We get 2 semi "mirrored" zones

One zone with Seelie pixies with there "light hearted pranksters" demeanour in the high fantasy aesthetic of Il Mheg,
and its mirrored terrain zone with Unseelie pixies with maybe a self-interested but lawful demeanour with a darker high fantasy aesthetic of "AD Mheg"

Maybe even a 3rd and have a Mheg on the source that isn't as higher fantasy and using something allows to slip between each version.

it would make these zone a little easier to make I would imagine a lot of the world from Il Mheg could form the base of the other aesthetical versions.

You might be onto something. Im in serious doubt over these complex time travel series, but this one might make sense.

Hopefully this is away that avoids story horrors of direct time travel and focuses on dimensional shifts is less of an issue to have a parallel world in a different temporal state aka seemingly farther along time wise than the home dimension or time passing at different rate to the home dimension

High fantasy do have like to have some time dilation aka;
- I was away minutes and hours have pasted
- it seemed like years yet i've returned and its like I just left.

Side thought- this focus on dimensional might even aid the explanation of the Nier cross over if its on another shard

[Katie_Kitty]

I get that 1st shard travel is a common pet theory but there's really no evidence whatsoever or even hints that that's what going on. On the other hand they've practically thrown the time travel suggestions in our faces all throughout the leadup to shadowbringers.

[QT_Melon]

I get that 1st shard travel is a common pet theory but there's really no evidence whatsoever or even hints that that's what going on. On the other hand they've practically thrown the time travel suggestions in our faces all throughout the leadup to shadowbringers.

Same can be said vice versa depending on how you're interpreting it, since Midealyn (yes I'm calling her that) was supposed to be on the first Shard. The WoD making a visit to our world and other hints along with the recent chapter of supposed plans in MSQ. So it could be both, neither or one or the other. - And yes I'm saying it's a possibility of both or neither because the same kind of argument coming up that it has to be one or the other came up during the Stormblood Trailer re: Yda/Lyse/Dancer/Monk! arguments.

[fay2]

I get that 1st shard travel is a common pet theory but there's really no evidence whatsoever or even hints that that's what going on.

hints wise here is some:
-warriors of darkness coming from the 1st shard (like QT_Melon stated)
-Minfilia going to the 1st shard with the warriors of darkness (like QT_Melon stated)
-The Calling from the warrior of darkness.
-The Scions that have been called their souls have traveled and vanished but their souls have not returned to the live stream.

So the scions are not dead they but their souls are no on the source, that leaves another shard. the 1st shard seems most likely, as the calling that has affected the scions was done by the WoD who should be on the 1st shard atm.

Maybe Minfilia invested part of herself into the scions that where called (she is the word of the mother crystal atm) so they might make the journey between shards without sundering the flesh, and from that has lost power and her form reflects that with her seeming to be a child. The scions take different names on the 1st like the WoD did on the source.
Or on her arrival on the 1st she was born again? and the scions again have had Minfilia invested part of herself and now they all have limited echo, and have body snatched on the 1st. the echo lets you see a persons soul (Minfilia states that when you join the scions the for 1st time). Based on that Y'shtola's soul snatches matoya body we see her as Y'shtola thanks to the echo.

On the other hand they've practically thrown the time travel suggestions in our faces all throughout the leadup to shadowbringers.

This i'm not seeing this can you elaborate for me please?

The echo is time mechanic sure but it cant change history's out comes (another thing Minfilia states that when you join the scions).

[fay2]

Midealyn (yes I'm calling her that) .

Midealyn for the "word of the mother crystal Minfilia" i'll have to remember to use that its a hell of a lot short for one lol

So it could be both, neither or one or the other. - And yes I'm saying it's a possibility of both or neither because the same kind of argument coming up that it has to be one or the other came up during the Stormblood Trailer re: Yda/Lyse/Dancer/Monk! arguments.

indeed its fun to speculate a little tho

[castielcampbell]

So basically this shard is like a reflection of our shard?

[fay2]

So basically this shard is like a reflection of our shard?

ok I try and put it differently in hopes is more easy to understand
I know the 1st post wasn't more than a lightbulb moment for me at the start so my thoughts were not collected so may not be easy to comprehend.

So I'll start from a different angle. Each expansion so far has herald a new type of traversing zones.

-in ARR we got jumping in zones

-in HW we got flying zones

-in StB we got swimming & diving zones

-so why not in ShB we get a sort of plain phasing/rifting with zones designed for it.

Now lets say the Il Mheg we were shown at fanfest isn't the part of a zone on the source, but its the part of a zone that's on the 1st shard and the its mirrored part on the source is a "dive like splash" animation only with a rift to switch between the too.



Basically my mind after seeing Il Mheg

{please excuse the dodgy paint stand in image for Il Mheg}


my mind went nice but shouldn't there be a dark version too something like

{please excuse the dodgy paint image again but pictures = 1000 words they say}


and the my mind raced off down that rabbit hole of how could all this be