This thread is just going in circles for 69 pages. Some people like Eureka, some people hate it. We don't know how many of each there are, and it doesn't matter because the Devs seem dead-set on this being the new template for relics. Those of us who hate Eureka either have to suck it up and do it anyway, or just say goodbye to having relics, or maybe even find another MMO.

Personally, I've chosen to say goodbye to relics. It's unfortunate, but as Lamdafish said a way back (or was it a different Eureka thread, who knows?) To get the Savage weapon, you have to do Savage, and now to get the relic weapon, you have to do whatever horrible nonsense they've cooked up for the relic. I hope they go back to the old way, or at least find a compromise between the old way and the new, but it's doubtful.