Please no more Eureka!

[Metalwrath]

You have people from a whole Datacenter in this. So having 144 from one DC is not something that shows if its successful or not because it has many worlds to take people from. The one number that might show if Eureka is truly successful is the people that finished all of it. And right now JP has like 18% on Pyros level cap and all NA and EU have below 10%. If that counts as successful for you then thats fine. I dont see it that way. Not for something that huge. Not for one of the few truly main things in SB. Not for something that has its own story line, huge amount of rewards and the relic quest line on top of that.

Honestly it would not surprise me if at the end of the expansion more people have done O12s than the whole Eureka.

Stop going on about the 144 people.For god sake.Thats the maximum amount of people in one instance.If im on EU data centre and there and there are several instance of each Eurkea zone thats over 1000 people in Eureka instances at one time.And thats not counting all the players that do Eureka either as they arent all going to be in there or playing at the same time so the figure is likely more than double that amount if not more.
It doesnt matter if people have finished the relic weapons.The fact you have that many players useing the content at the moment is obvious that the content is successful.
The fact that there was so many players useing Eureka instances that it took down duty finder for several days in EU is further proof of that.

[Vahlnir]

Stop going on about the 144 people.For god sake.Thats the maximum amount of people in one instance.If im on EU data centre and there and there are several instance of each Eurkea zone thats over 1000 people in Eureka instances at one time.And thats not counting all the players that do Eureka either as they arent all going to be in there or playing at the same time so the figure is likely more than double that amount if not more.
It doesnt matter if people have finished the relic weapons.The fact you have that many players useing the content at the moment is obvious that the content is successful.
The fact that there was so many players useing Eureka instances that it took down duty finder for several days in EU is further proof of that.

Just because a piece of content is active doesn't mean it is well received. Some like it, some don't. I don't have any numbers to back up either side, but I think SE needs to rethink their idea of "successful" sometimes. Did I do Eureka because I liked it? God no. I think it is worse than its precursor, Diadem, and is some of the worst content in the game period. But I did it because it was the only way to get my relic. I'm sure others have approached it the same way. How many others? No idea. I'm not about to pull a number from nowhere. By SE's logic Mahjong was probably a success too, yet it died faster than LoV on NA servers. It's barely a footnote in Gold Saucer history now.

[Reynhart]

But I did it because it was the only way to get my relic. I'm sure others have approached it the same way. How many others? No idea. I'm not about to pull a number from nowhere.

Problem is, this would have been the only way to really send your feedback as forums can't really be used to establish a general playerbase opinion. But every time someone suggested than to a Eureka opponent, it was basically received as "mind your own business".

If those who didn't like it didn't do it, and SE thought the participation was really below expectation, I would have gladly admitted that the content would have been a failure, even If personally really love it. Also, another point is "expectation", and what numbers don't mean much. If they expect 5% for a content (Regardless of the ressources they decided to put in it, since it's their choice) and 10% participates "willingly", then it's a success. If they expect 15% for the same content, it's a failure. And we don't know what percentage of the playerbase they expected to complete Eureka.

What they really need to do is drop the instanced part of Eureka, make it a full zone that has its own set of mechanics when you port to it but you can still queue up for other stuff while in there, that way you don't have to drop every other activity in the game just to do it.

Every time you will join/leave a party, you would have to relaunch the Duty Finder, and if people stay solo just because they want to do something else, they'll each individually receive lower rewards from every NM, making the whole process simply taking more time.

[Leanna]

Every time you will join/leave a party, you would have to relaunch the Duty Finder, and if people stay solo just because they want to do something else, they'll each individually receive lower rewards from every NM, making the whole process simply taking more time.

You don't need a party to get gold from a NM if you around the same level. And most people probably play on duo/trio, so even less problems, but you can easily get gold solo. So that wouldn't be an issue. The idea is good.

[Alucard135]

You don't need a party to get gold from a NM if you around the same level. And most people probably play on duo/trio, so even less problems, but you can easily get gold solo. So that wouldn't be an issue. The idea is good.

Your chances of receiving gold drops with the number of people in the instance if you're solo even if you're at the same level as the fate. It's different when you're fighting the NM with 20 people around compared to 143.

[Leanna]

Your chances of receiving gold drops with the number of people in the instance if you're solo even if you're at the same level as the fate. It's different when you're fighting the NM with 20 people around compared to 143.

Explain me why I get gold when solo'ing then -.-
Because I even got gold when doing Pazu in solo. So there is nothing you can say to defend party group, if you do enough damage and know the mechanics to survive, there is no such thing as "but you need a party qq"

[Alucard135]

Explain me why I get gold when solo'ing then -.-
Because I even got gold when doing Pazu in solo. So there is nothing you can say to defend party group, if you do enough damage and know the mechanics to survive, there is no such thing as "but you need a party qq"

As I said, the number of participants affect your chances of getting gold. The HP of the monster scales up, so with your DPS remaining constant, the % of the damage you do to the boss is reduced. Thus your chances of getting gold goes down easily.

[Vahlnir]

Explain me why I get gold when solo'ing then -.-
Because I even got gold when doing Pazu in solo. So there is nothing you can say to defend party group, if you do enough damage and know the mechanics to survive, there is no such thing as "but you need a party qq"

If you main a healer as your "Main Class" suggests, then it's much easier to get gold. Same goes for tanks. A lot of it comes down to enmity generation.

[Nariel]

Your chances of receiving gold drops with the number of people in the instance if you're solo even if you're at the same level as the fate. It's different when you're fighting the NM with 20 people around compared to 143.

How so ? The fate scale to the number of player... The only fate where it can be true are the lowest level fate who smelt like snow on a frying pan. Otherwise gold medal are easy to get even solo once you are on par with the fate level even if half the Data center is here.

[Alleo]

Stop going on about the 144 people.For god sake.Thats the maximum amount of people in one instance.If im on EU data centre and there and there are several instance of each Eurkea zone thats over 1000 people in Eureka instances at one time.And thats not counting all the players that do Eureka either as they arent all going to be in there or playing at the same time so the figure is likely more than double that amount if not more.
It doesnt matter if people have finished the relic weapons.The fact you have that many players useing the content at the moment is obvious that the content is successful.
The fact that there was so many players useing Eureka instances that it took down duty finder for several days in EU is further proof of that.

As I said you cant say if something is a success just because x amounts of instances are there. Again it takes people from the whole DC. That could be, depending on the DC, up to 90k active players. There are also people on this forum that posted that they had barely active instances too. So no I dont see that as a way to tell any way. What matters is that people liked the content and if enough players have done it to warrant its budget and time spent on this.

We have no clear numbers on any of those because SE never asked for our opinion in the game about this. (No surveys) What we do have is the lucky bancho numbers which paints a bad picture for that content. <10% of the NA playerbase (the biggest one of the whole bunch) have reached level cap in Pyros. That means that over 90% of the NA players dont care to get to the end of the content when its recent content, in a time where there is not much other content left. If that counts as a success for SE then they have quite the low bar..and they are ready to put that much behind content that most dont play...and on top of that we have no real numbers on how many of those <10% NA players on level cap even enjoyed it. I would be part of those that count for Anemos..yet I did not enjoy my time in this and only done it to get the mount. Who knows how many of those really liked it at all. Taking in account that the forum can show a bit of a direction then quite a bit of those will probably not have enjoyed it, seeing how negative that content was received..heck even Pagos changed the opinion of some players that loved Anemos.

Again if SE counts all of that as a success then anything will count as a success...