Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
And how does it not count as hardcore dedication if they play more than some actually hardcore players who do savage and ex primals and all that?
It counts as hardcore dedication, that's the point. And the reason why the relic being for people "who don't raid" doesn't mean it was a weapon "for casuals".
Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
You can call them grinders or whatever you want but in general the vast majority of the playerbase is considered casual and I can assure you most of them aren't only people who play 2 hours a week like you seem to suggest as the only definition for a casual player besides not doing harder content.
And the vast majority of the playerbase still don't have any relic weapon past or present.