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    Quote Originally Posted by HiroesX81 View Post
    How can you know claim you know what goes on in other maps if you dont even do Eureka?
    Still true though. Its one or two group spawning while 75% are just waiting in the bunny fate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiroesX81 View Post
    This thread has degenerated into mostly being about players who feel they have nothing to do and its due to Eureka.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Still true though. Its one or two group spawning while 75% are just waiting in the bunny fate.
    It's true that you don't like the content and continue to whine about it? I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    It's true that you don't like the content and continue to whine about it? I agree.
    It wasn't even a complaign but an observation, but okay I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Still true though. Its one or two group spawning while 75% are just waiting in the bunny fate.
    Assuming that your'e talking about Pyros there is a very good reason why most people are doing that. If you aren't max-level and don't enjoy Thief-like navigation then moving around in Pyros is extremely dangerous due to the positioning of the mobs and their level. Add in the fact that the southern Bunny FATE is the most reliable source of Logos for most people (and you mostly just get Bronze chests anyway) and you have the reason why people rarely move away from here. The while northern part is mostly abandoned, except for some FATEs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    Assuming that your'e talking about Pyros there is a very good reason why most people are doing that. If you aren't max-level and don't enjoy Thief-like navigation then moving around in Pyros is extremely dangerous due to the positioning of the mobs and their level. Add in the fact that the southern Bunny FATE is the most reliable source of Logos for most people (and you mostly just get Bronze chests anyway) and you have the reason why people rarely move away from here. The while northern part is mostly abandoned, except for some FATEs.
    Oh I know, I've been through the whole thing, I'm not of those guys "why don't you help urr durr" when people barely under the level can't even dent the lifebar on a trash. Plus the rabbits are needed for logos action and for many people they are as important and take priority over fate. Its more of a design problem than a player mindset problem. It was already annoying back in anemos when those lv 20 guys expected me a lv 5 to hit 12 on a HP sponge they already burn to death in mere second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Oh I know, I've been through the whole thing, I'm not of those guys "why don't you help urr durr" when people barely under the level can't even dent the lifebar on a trash. Plus the rabbits are needed for logos action and for many people they are as important and take priority over fate. Its more of a design problem than a player mindset problem. It was already annoying back in anemos when those lv 20 guys expected me a lv 5 to hit 12 on a HP sponge they already burn to death in mere second.
    Yes, it's one of the more annoying design problems plaguing Pyros for new players: bunnies are the only really useful source of Logos you have. NM's rarely drop then and sprite farming SOLO is really unpractical as you have to onlevel with the sprites and most of them are in areas sprawling with dangerous mobs.

    I've done my fair share of spawning mobs in Anemos and Pagos but I have to admit that I'm also parking myself currently the Bunny FATE when no NM is up. I don't like it, but it's the only way to get reliable Logos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalithaSolarien View Post
    Yes, it's one of the more annoying design problems plaguing Pyros for new players: bunnies are the only really useful source of Logos you have. NM's rarely drop then and sprite farming SOLO is really unpractical as you have to onlevel with the sprites and most of them are in areas sprawling with dangerous mobs.

    I've done my fair share of spawning mobs in Anemos and Pagos but I have to admit that I'm also parking myself currently the Bunny FATE when no NM is up. I don't like it, but it's the only way to get reliable Logos.
    Same here, the only good point being that Hydatos bunnies are really doable from the strat due to the space between pack of mobs and you can really start to get some nice logos even at low level, alleviating the pain because you can at least make some progress everytime you get a bunny whatever your level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Still true though. Its one or two group spawning while 75% are just waiting in the bunny fate.
    Or they are waiting in the base until the NM's spawn, instantly move over there and pull or are to long afk and complain afterwards that no one waited for them.

    Sounds absolutly like eureka.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Or they are waiting in the base until the NM's spawn, instantly move over there and pull or are to long afk and complain afterwards that no one waited for them.

    Sounds absolutly like eureka.
    Yup, as much as I can understand people can be bored and don't want to make effort and I did it sometime too for my sanity but if your not here for the pull its your mistake and you have to assume your loss.
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