I was a bit late in working on some later parts of the relic for 4.X (In which I haven't even done much in the more current one), but it's really disheartening when people actively say 'why are you working so hard lol' when trying to help pre-farm stuff, or even the parties that disband after 10 or so minutes when trying to gather light. With what I have done in the most recent one, a lot of people aren't willing to help lower level players travel by mount if it's not too far, and I've had waves of people just run right past me while I'm laying there dead and actively shouting in the chat. I've even been griefed when trying to level up as a healer there, and I'm actively healing people doing the pre-farming, with people shouting I'm mooching because I'm not fighting.

I like the older relics because (Multiple in both 2.X and 3.X done for me) you could do many of the steps in them alone. In Eureka you really can't do anything solo efficiently....if at all. Sure some things have gotten 'better' as they somewhat listened to feedback, but I really do not want something this heavy in co-op content. There were originally two ways to get weapons for your class, relic and raid. Relic for the more casual people, something you could work a little bit on each day or when you felt it, and raid weapons for the more hardcore players, but it wasn't as bad as eureka.... and you never had to worry about de-leveling if people felt like being jackasses and didn't raise you if you died.