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    AugustI's Avatar
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    Thya Kahzuun
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    Why is there another thread about this..? The last one is still going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustI View Post
    Why is there another thread about this..? The last one is still going.
    People like to complain more than anything else on the forums.
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugowulf View Post
    People like to complain more than anything else on the forums.

    Rather, some people feel like their 2 cents might be too special to be wasted on anything but post #1 of a topic.
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    Rather, some people feel like their 2 cents might be too special to be wasted on anything but post #1 of a topic.
    We're all just pissing in the wind here, anyway. It feels like the only time they ever pay attention to any opinions or suggestions from the West is when they get ambushed at Q&A sessions.
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    Xyno Edajos
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    The old relic weapons were not just tome weapons. They required many different steps that used old and new content for progress on a single weapon. 2-3 steps at most used tomes until they made steps easier with old tomes. I don't know how you got it in your head that old relics were just tome grind weapons. Were you even around for them?
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    Doing old content was the point of the relic quest. And I liked how you skipped over the crafting, materia melding, the books, the light farm and everything else and just reduced everything to tome grind to make your point. Sounds like you don't have an actual point.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    And I liked how you skipped over the crafting, materia melding, the books, the light farm and everything else and just reduced everything to tome grind to make your point. Sounds like you don't have an actual point.
    Materia melding...ok, the very first step required crafting and materia melding...but also tomestones. To be fair, the first step of the Relic was pretty enjoyable and you know why ? Because it was the only step where content was created for the relic. Hmm, strange.
    The Novus step required lots of materia...and Alexandrites, obtained by...tomestones, or once per day by doing a daily roulette.
    The books...do you even remember how you obtained those books ?

    And yes, the light farm, for which you did dungeons and trials...nothing like what you already do to farm tomestones right ? The exact thing I mentionned just above in my "two steps that don't require tomestones".
    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    Sounds like you don't have an actual point.
    Sounds like you have a pretty convenient selective memory.
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    Runic Raven
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    One of My specific problems with this content is that other Content gets scrapped in favour of Eureka, wich the majority does not like. As someone previously mentioned: we get less dungeons less pvp content and so on.
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    One of My specific problems with this content is that other Content gets scrapped in favour of Eureka, wich the majority does not like. As someone previously mentioned: we get less dungeons less pvp content and so on.
    They should stop doing ultimate, savage, and PVP content with that logic. Since the majority don't do them or like them. And if you think the only reason we got less dungeons is because of Eureka, you probably have no idea how difficult it is to make an ultimate fight (that's why we have 2 and not 3 of them).
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    Last edited by Alucard135; 02-07-2019 at 04:53 AM.

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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    They should stop doing ultimate, savage, and PVP content with that logic. Since the majority don't do them or like them. And if you think the only reason we got less dungeons is because of Eureka, you probably have no idea how difficult it is to make an ultimate fight (that's why we have 2 and not 3 of them).
    There's room for Eureka I suppose, but they really goofed it by making Eureka one of their big expansion selling bullet points when they suspected in the beginning it would only have niche appeal. Just like Diadem before I suppose.
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