Please no more Eureka!

[Alucard135]

sooo, the latest Lucky Bancho Lodestone census is out, this time including some numbers for Eureka. According to those, the number of active players per region that have started Eureka is:
58,8% JP
41,4% NA
44,2% EU

and the number of active players that have reached the Pyros level cap of 50 is:
18,6% JP
5,8% NA
7,3% EU

I'd say those numbers speak for themselves about how 'popular' Eureka is

Percentage of players that reached level cap 50 at Pyros
JP 18.6%
NA 5.8%
EU 7.3%

Percentage of players that have Anima minion in March 2017 (the numbers might even be less)
JP 11.3%
NA 8.58%
EU 4.12%


The numbers do speak for themselves lol. And this is what the one who did the calculations even said:
"I went back and checked and you're right, the Anima minion numbers are continuously updated and not representative of what they were in March 2017. So as a percentage of total current active players the values are lower and, as you said, Anima has the benefit of having been out for 2 years."

[Alleo]

Percentage of players that reached level cap 50 at Pyros
JP 18.6%
NA 5.8%
EU 7.3%

Percentage of players that have Anima minion in March 2017 (the numbers might even be less)
JP 11.3%
NA 8.58%
EU 4.12%


The numbers do speak for themselves lol. And this is what the one who did the calculations even said:
"I went back and checked and you're right, the Anima minion numbers are continuously updated and not representative of what they were in March 2017. So as a percentage of total current active players the values are lower and, as you said, Anima has the benefit of having been out for 2 years."

Sorry maybe I am misunderstanding the numbers but isnt that like comparing apples with oranges?

The numbers for the Anima minion means that these people have reached the stage where they get that, this means that these people have the relic. But the numbers for Eureka only means that x people have reached lvl cap at Pyros. (As the title of the lucky bancho says) We have no clue how many of those even have a relic, only that they have reaced a certain level. Seeing how there are probably more than enough people that might simply do this for other rewards or for getting the story, we simply cant compare these two that easily. In the end even the JP players barely do play Eureka. So unlike some people that argue that we are just the minority and that the majority do enjoy this, the numbers tells us something quite different. Its niche content and who knows how even smaller the numbers would be if they did not have relics or even all the other rewards in this..this just shows to me that the content itself is not that much fun for most of us..and seeing how much work was probably put into this, the numbers really dont reflect that.

So + for OP, no more Eureka in 5.0..if they do just the same again and we dont get other casual content on top of that...this will be my last expansion.

[Alucard135]

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Reaching 50 at Pyros can be used as a metric to determine who got the relic and who will eventually. Because what's gonna stop them once they hit level cap? If you're gonna say the 30 logos actions (not 50), then that's one interesting lazy+dedicated combo right there. Just reaching 50 via leveling by bunnies or chains will give you enough amount already to get that. And if someone was only focusing on NMs, they still drop logograms even if not that much. But the price of logograms in the market board right now has dropped really hard (I can buy conceptual for 500gil each). So it's very easy to get 30 actions.

Even if you wanna go with the route of using the numbers to determine who reached a milestone in each content, the fact that the number of those who got the Anima minion is still lower in some regions after 2 years of it being released says a lot on how enjoyable it was and how many are willing to do it. So the numbers do speak for themselves in many ways.

Seeing how there are probably more than enough people that might simply do this for other rewards or for getting the story, we simply cant compare these two that easily.

Can you find someone who reached level cap at Pyros and would never bother getting the relic reward? That's like getting a free gift and refusing it after how easy it is once you hit level cap.

[Leanna]

Can you find someone who reached level cap at Pyros and would never bother getting the relic reward? That's like getting a free gift and refusing it after how easy it is once you hit level cap.

Pagos in my case, couldn't bother with the awful light farm to finish a relic, continued to Pyros just for the elemental glamours (someday).

If the farm is unbearable, it is unbearable and that's it.

Healers running past anyone who is dead is the every day, no one wants to miss the Fates and revive people is too much of a bother.

[Alucard135]

Pagos in my case, couldn't bother with the awful light farm to finish a relic, continued to Pyros just for the elemental glamours (someday).

If the farm is unbearable, it is unbearable and that's it.

Healers running past anyone who is dead is the every day, no one wants to miss the Fates and revive people is too much of a bother.

Well, the numbers were about those at level cap in Pyros. Also, the solo light farming made it easier for a lot to get through it. I know a lot who created multiple relics in Pagos in a single day by doing it. But that's too late now, since SE considers it a violation of TOS and an exploit to do it with the new TOS. I don't know how nerfed the light farm is in Pagos right now, since that's the only map I hate in Eureka and I rarely go there.

[Leanna]

Well, the numbers were about those at level cap in Pyros. Also, the solo light farming made it easier for a lot to get through it. I know a lot who created multiple relics in Pagos in a single day by doing it. But that's too late now, since SE considers it a violation of TOS and an exploit to do it with the new TOS. I don't know how nerfed the light farm is in Pagos right now, since that's the only map I hate in Eureka and I rarely go there.

SE said they wouldn't ban anyone for doing it, and it is the only way to do farm light without wanting to kill yourself.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Well, the numbers were about those at level cap in Pyros. Also, the solo light farming made it easier for a lot to get through it. I know a lot who created multiple relics in Pagos in a single day by doing it. But that's too late now, since SE considers it a violation of TOS and an exploit to do it with the new TOS. I don't know how nerfed the light farm is in Pagos right now, since that's the only map I hate in Eureka and I rarely go there.

Getting light in Pagos IMO is a breeze now. Especially if you plan on doing multiple relics because you gain a very noticeable amount from just doing NM's for more crystals, louhi ice, or drops like the optic hat or cassie earring. (Though I cant recall an instance that actually tried to pop cassie after the first week.)