WHM wishlist for 5.0

**Sylvain** · 03-14-2019 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

snip.

While I would agree for o1s, 05S and 09s, plz explain me how you intend to heal o4s o8s o12s without gcd heal?

**Mansion** · 03-15-2019 08:01 PM

Yeah well. Solo healing is a special case, because even if fight healing requirements are not that high, two healers ensure a seamless rotation of oGCD powerful heals both on monotarget and raid healing. While solo healing can be done, I don't see the point of thinking about balancing jobs around this idea.

The problem lies in the lazy association of White Mage = Cure III. This identity no longer works because of how healing is evolving in the game. More oGCD ways of healing for WHM would be harming Cure III's purpose, but in the end it would not be that bad.

**NocturniaUzuki** · 03-16-2019 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

Two excellent healers who are genuinely working together to build a duo rotation can basically remove all GCD heals from their rotation just by working together to build an oGCD rotation between the two of them to cover all incoming damage.

I never said it was possible to heal everything with two healers and never use a single GCD. However, two healers can certainly drastically minimize how many GCDs they use, and on lower tier raids they can get rid of them all together. Even on fourth tier raids, and excellent pair of duo healers won't be casting a whole lot of GCD heals. There will be a few, but not nearly as many as people usually use.

**NobleWinter** · 03-16-2019 02:55 PM

I would like to see WHM be more effective at this pure healer gimmick. First, I would change Asylum to a skill with a 6 second duration and it's recast would be 300 seconds with the new effect being that it keeps any party member within the effect from having their HP drop below 1 from most attacks. A WHM would and should be able to guarantee party survival in a way no other healer could. It could be used to cheese certain mechanics in a way that would make them very desirable even without party buffs. Second, I would change Plenary Indulgence to a skill on 120 cool down that transformed your next heal over time spell into a front loaded heal. Your next Regen or Medica 2 would then supply it's full heal amount instantly. Last I would change the Secret of the Lillies trait out for one based on Regen Ticks. Each Tick of Regen on a party member that doesn't have full health would have a 4% chance to grant a Lilly. HoT Ticks would have no chance to proc Lillies if the target has full health. For effect each Lily would reduce the cast time and recast time of your next healing spell by 1 second and all are consumed at once. So with 3 Lillies your next healing spell is instant with it's cast time and recast time reduced by 3 seconds. Secret of the Lillies 2 would grant you a 2% chance for a Lily from any Medica 2 HoT tick that restored health. These skills would allow a WHM to step up in the event of a cohealer dying and supply healing in a way no other healer could dream of. No party buffs, but the ultimate strong arm healing and Asylum is a sneaky raid dps buff as well as a safety net for anyone you see about to eat a mechanic. Plenty of clipping still but hard casting heals would be much better with Lillies saved up allowing for more mobility and uptime.

**deadman1204** · 03-19-2019 06:21 AM

Why make whm even stronger healers?
The issue isn't that our heals spells are not strong enough. Changes should improve weaknesses or add flavor.

**Rosa_Frandlia** · 03-19-2019 08:44 AM

How about an upgrade to holy similar to stone's upgrade versions. I don't know the potency to go to, but that's because we don't have the 70-80 potencies yet.

**Kurando** · 03-19-2019 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rosa_Frandlia

How about an upgrade to holy similar to stone's upgrade versions. I don't know the potency to go to, but that's because we don't have the 70-80 potencies yet.

I would like this, same with Flare and Gravity as well. Even if the potency doesn't increase by much, I'd definitely like to see a new spell upgrade from Holy. Fancy new spell animations can really make a job appealing to play

**Exiled_Tonberry** · 03-19-2019 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by LillaoftheValley

If I'm being honest, the thing that I think whm needs the most right now is some sort of cooldown like lightspeed or triplecast. Something to allow for whm to be more mobile than it currently is.

When you think about it, WHM is the ONLY job left across every role to have this issue. BLM has the mentioned triplecast and a range of other skills and procs to help them. SMN and RDM obviously have no problem. SCH and AST again, obviously no problem.
WHM is the single job in the game that has no mobility utility of any sort. It really shows how faulty and outdated it's design is.

Yet I feel like we either won't get any of this fixed, or these fixes that should have came ages ago will come as brand new ShB abilities. And that's pretty sad.

**Seraphor** · 03-19-2019 10:05 PM

Lily rework:

Generated by Medica and Medica II.
Upon gaining a Lily, any of the following skills that are on cooldown, are reduced by 5s: Asylum, Assize, Divine Benison, or Tetragrammaton
Upon using Cure, Cure II or Cure III, any lilies are expended with the following effect:
1 Lily: Cast time reduced by 0.5s
2 Lilies: Cast time reduced by 1.5s
3 Lilies: Instant cast.

This would give Lilies a valid use, and sort out that mobility issue.

**Ftail** · 03-23-2019 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

When you think about it, WHM is the ONLY job left across every role to have this issue. BLM has the mentioned triplecast and a range of other skills and procs to help them. SMN and RDM obviously have no problem. SCH and AST again, obviously no problem.
WHM is the only job in the game that has no mobility utility of any sort. It really shows how faulty and outdated it's design is.

Yet I feel like we either won't get any of this fixed, or these fixes that should have came ages ago will come as brand new ShB abilities. And that's pretty sad.

What we learn from this is that the Devs are pathetic and clearly unable to balance any of the classes properly. If you go to a target dummy to test your DPS, it means absolutely nothing, WHM is the highest DPS on dummies but lowest in raids. WHM is still the target dummy king, but when you look at stuff like not having any mobility, "it really shows how faulty and outdated it's design is". I agree with you Exiled 100%. The 4.4 update closed the gap by a significant amount which is surprising and also a shame because it should've been fixed much earlier. Dancer being announced a DPS also shows how much they are struggling with balancing healers.

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