Minfilia Warde

[Destati]

Seriously, I thought we were done with her. I wanted absolutely nothing to do with her again.

[Marxam]

Good to see FFXIV finally catch up to the 2019 anime winter line up of loli's, moe and harems. Joking aside, very interested in the story this time around as it's back on the scions and ascians, and not just events happening around the WoL.

[lunar_seraphim]

I'll never understand all the Minfillia hate. I'll admit she was a poorly written character, which is why I'm excited for her to be back and for Shadowbringers to add some much-needed development/depth to her. Must protect.

[Fyce]

I'll never understand all the Minfillia hate. I'll admit she was a poorly written character, which is why I'm excited for her to be back and for Shadowbringers to add some much-needed development/depth to her. Must protect.

Well, you answered your own question actually: she is (was) poorly written.

The issue is that the work she did was barely implied and never actually shown, giving us the impression that all she did was just sitting behind her desk all day while calling us back to the Waking Sands every 5 minutes out of boredom to ask us to save the day yet again. Or even to save her ala Mario & Peach. That's why when Alphinaud took over her responsabilities, even if he did pretty huge mistakes, people were more supportive for him as he was actually doing stuff.

Had she came with us in a few of our adventures, and simply used her Echo to do stuff other than the exact same stuff we were doing ("Did you see it too?" Yes, Minfillia, I did, I have the echo, just like you...), she would've felt closer to us. Heck, they could've use her the power to speak every languages, and it would've make a lot of sense for her to come with us and try to use diplomacy with the beast tribes.

So yeah... It did feel like she basically had no other purpose than to annoy us with her requests and get kidnapped. In short, she appeared to us as useless and helpless. When she was called by Hydaelyn, I think people were more than happy to see her go, simply because she was given an actual useful purpose.

I hope that her return means that she'll get an important role and focus point, and something more that "oh, she lost her memories and is now a child needed to be defended", because that'd basically make her more or less what people hated about her previously: helpless and useless.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

My 2 Hypotesis without time traveling.

I.- The Light Avatar: This minfilia is just a different manifestation of Hydaelyn that the one we know, "our minfilia" is gone still, probably still busy trying to recover the shard of derplander. Thancred just has an extra motivation to protect Hydaely's avatar.
II.- The Evil Light Avatar: This minfilia is just a different manifestation of Hydaelyn that the one we know, "our minfilia" is gone but was defeated or betrayed by the Hydaelyn and now she is using these Avatars as heralds of her victory over Zodiark, we gotta stop Hydaelyn while also preventing the awakening of Zodiark and for this we have to go to another Shard and tip the balance there as a Warrior of Darkness, this would lead to us exploring maybe, regions of Hydaelyn "The planet" still undiscovered by us and in a different version. Thancred is being manipulated or even better yet, maybe is willingly protecting this Evil Minfilia and we will eventually have to face them both.

I know is pretty probably not gonna be like this because time traveling is probably be a thing, but i think we will have to travel shard by shard trying to restore balance while not awakening Zodiark nor letting Hydaelyn just roll over.

This is interesting, because we could potentially visit the true "Void" one day.

[EdwinLi]

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I still say it is one of those "same name but different person" type of plots. Yes she is Minfilia but when it comes to her personality she is a completely different person from the Minfilia we saw leave us in 3.X.

The "rebirth for second chance" plot has been done before in different stories but it is a matter of how does the rebirth affect the person.

A) The person is completely reborn with no memory of their past life thus they grow up to be completely different person with different ideals, skills, and knowledge.

or

B) the person is completely reborn with all memories of their past life and remains the same person.

My guess it is going the A path with Minfilia's rebirth as a child of light maybe due to sacrificing everything to save WoD shard from the Flood of Light thus leaving only enough to be reborn as a child again with all aspect of her old self gone so she grows up into a different person depending on the actions of WoL.

Don't forget the one aspect of 5.0 story is that the WoL goal is to protect Minfilia as shown in one of 5.0's art. It would be interesting if players are given choices in dialogues through 5.0 that may determine how child Minfilia will grows up into X type of person.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Don't forget the one aspect of 5.0 story is that the WoL goal is to protect Minfilia as shown in one of 5.0's art. It would be interesting if players are given choices in dialogues through 5.0 that may determine how child Minfilia will grows up into X type of person.

It is thancred's role. Not ours.

If anything, we have been shown in very different places, WoL/D was in something that looks pretty alien to me, either new regions and a new world.
Thancred was in a different instance or version of Gelmorran origin it seems.

He could perfectly be defending a manifestation of Hydaelyn we as Warriors of Darkness need to defeat.

[Ladon]

Probably just some Buddhist style reincarnation mixed with WoL aether reconstitution ability.

[Derio]

I am tired of protecting a weak individual who adds nothing to the party. I prefer Alphinaud, even with him messing up the scions pretty badly.

Minfillia was just a bad character and had no real character development like the other scions. Almost as if her death gave the WoL a new voice. But now that she's back its like and represents light and since we are now the WoD, I hope she is the enemy and I will sadly go through Thancred to slay the Waking Sands Tyrant again.

[Nalfein]

She's just here to vaccum the light, she'll explode right after!