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    Titania

    Titania was announced for Shadowbringer (as most probably know by now?)! Yay!

    Some questions I'm wondering about:
    1. Would the summoning of Titania work much like Ifrit/Sephirot, Odin/Bismarck, Shiva, the Kami, the Auspices, Argath Thadalfus, or something entirely new?
    2. Does lore permit SCH to summon and use Titania in a manner like SMN uses Bahamut?
    3. Both in SCH and SMN job quest it was found out that if your aetherpool wasn't large enough, the summon (Selene Lilac, Ramuh) either manifest improperly or not at all, though with the Bahamut-egi it was circumvented. Would that same work-around or something similar work? With the flower aspect of Titania I'd think she could graft an off-shoot of herself into the job-crystal?
    4. If it matters that Titania is a Pixie primal, not a fairy, how does that differ from the Egi and Carbuncles with the Egi-glamour quest (and Shiva storyline) in mind, that the aether-form can take the shape imagined by the summoner?
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    Scholars do not summon primal aether like summoner does, so unless they introduce some new lore, its very unlikely that SCH will get anything titania related. Arcanists can summon aether in different shapes and sizes, carbuncles are just the commonly used shape, SCH however is summoning lily, a specific fairy, and SMN is summoning primal aether. We can also assume for now that Titania was summoned like any other primal
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    Wouldn't Titania also have to be tied to a sch soul stone like how Lily is tied to the one we hold and the one we get introduced to in the 60-70 questline is tied to that stone?
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    1) As far as I'm aware, it would work the same as any other Primal. Given that she is a Primal.

    2) Not with currently established lore. SCH uses Nymian arts which includes summoning of a Fairy (Specifically, Lily, the one bound to the Soul Crystal we have). SMN uses the aether aspected to to a specific primal that we have fought (Or in the case of Bahamut, we went to an area rich in his Aether and fused with his essence and then later was taught by Prin to summon Demi-Bahamut). Though, it's possible that ShB could expand from the secrets of the Nym as the sole source of SCH power and incorporate Pixie magic and thus make Titania a potential skill for SCH.

    3) Maybe, if there's enough of Titania's essence to infuse with. Though, this only would work for SMN based on currently established lore, given that fusing with the essence of a primal has nothing to do with SCH.

    4) Egi are manifestations of Primal Aether that take on the form of the Primal themselves (Somewhat). Carbuncles are just condensed shapes of Aether and are basic enough to be pretty common. Glamour is essentially just taking your Primal Aether Egi and morphing it into the basic Carbuncle shape. Fairies are not merely manifestations of Aether, they're unique individuals that are tied to a specific Soul Crystal, thus their form is not malleable.

    On an unrelated side note, am I the only one who, whenever someone mentions Titania, thinks of:
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Wouldn't Titania also have to be tied to a sch soul stone like how Lily is tied to the one we hold and the one we get introduced to in the 60-70 questline is tied to that stone?
    That's why I was wondering if she could (3) graft herself onto our soul-stone, but I guess we just have to wait for the expansion.
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    One thing to note is that Pixies, at the present anyway, have nothing to do with the Fairies that Scholars call upon. The Fairies of Nym are aetherial constructs , not flesh and blood creatures like the new Pixie Beast Tribe appears to be. Scholars have nothing to do with primal magics, indeed, it's more likely that a summoner could create a Titania Egi than a Scholar could call upon magics related to Titania. Fairies are invented beings, although unlike most they appear to be bound to Soul Crystals which give them some level of autonomy and continued existence. They are fairly unique in Eorzea, and were invented by the Nymian Scholars first as messengers before they realized they had far, far more utility than that. Think of them kind of like Magical Artificial Intelligences or Robots.

    That being said, with the retcon clarification that Kuribu was based on a creature from an ascendant realm, I wouldn't be surprised if things turn out to be a little different than that. This is totally conjecture/guessing/nonsense, but if the White Magi of Ampador based some of their creations off of beings from other realms/places, it's possible that the Scholars of Nym did as well. If Il Megh is one of these mystical realms, perhaps they were inspired by the magical beings there and that led to the creation of the Fairies. We probably won't know until the next Scholar Job quests.

    As for Titania, at the present we can assume she's summoned similarly to any other primal, but in the Keynote Yoshida mentioned her as being a very strange one, so maybe it's something different. Anything we have is really more guesswork than conjecture at this point though...
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    I tend to think of Titania from the D&D/myth that she comes from.
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    To be fair, we've had plenty of primals summoned in strange ways. Shinryu uses Nidhogg's Eyes as an aether reserve instead of aether crystals. Moggle Mog, Shiva, Thordan and Bahamut are all based on historical figures that actually existed instead of myths. Susano and Tuskiyomi are summoned with mystical objects associated with a kami of the same name. Titania could be strange just in how she is summoned and how she maintains herself in the maeterial realm.
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    If Il Mheg is at the first shard like I suspect, I think the nature of the primals there may be quite different from those at the Source due to the aether of the world having been corrupted by the excess light and the natural laws of the world in general having been thrown into disarray.
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    What stood out to me the most is how Titania has a striking resemblance to Alisae.

    Yoshida emphasized the point that Titania doesn't really look like a primal. Maybe Yoshida was referring to the idea that Titania resembles a beautiful mortal woman moreso than the frightening bestial-like primals like Ifrit and Leviathan.

    However, human-like and benevolent-looking primals aren't new to us. We've seen primals like Ramuh, Shiva, Sophia, and Lakshmi, which don't look like your typical monstrous primal. So Titania as a primal isn't really surprising or shocking. She is as believable as a primal as Lakshmi and Sophia are.

    So perhaps Yoshida was trying to throw out another hint. Perhaps he was alluding to something else.

    My suspicion is that Titania will be summoned like Shiva, Thordan, and Tsukuyomi were: through possessing a mortal body.

    With the whole story being about the Warrior of Light becoming the Warrior of Darkness, it is possible that the Scions turn against him/her.

    Maybe Alisae becomes a primal to stop the Warrior of Darkness because she perceives him/her to be a threat. But that would be very out of place for Alisae's character.

    This is just a crazy idea.
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