Healer pulling?

[KalisimBellatora]

Is it okay for a healer to pull mobs in a raid/dungeon with an ability that heals and damages?

Last week, my FC & I were doing Orbonne. An AST set Earthly Star in the midst of a group of mobs before anyone had pulled. It eventually went off before the tanks pulled, causing the mobs to attack.

Being an AST main, I disagreed with the AST setting it before the fight began, since it could (and did) pull mobs before tanks were ready. My raid leader, also a healer main, said it was excusable, since it was in anticipation of healing a tank.

I’d like some opinions from other players of varying roles and raid experience. What is your opinion on the matter? No matter your stance, please try to be respectful of everyone else here. Thank you! ^.^

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Is it okay for a healer to pull mobs in a raid/dungeon with an ability that heals and damages?

Last week, my FC & I were doing Orbonne. An AST set Earthly Star in the midst of a group of mobs before anyone had pulled. It eventually went off before the tanks pulled, causing the mobs to attack.

Being an AST main, I disagreed with the AST setting it before the fight began, since it could (and did) pull mobs before tanks were ready. My raid leader, also a healer main, said it was excusable, since it was in anticipation of healing a tank.

I’d like some opinions from other players of varying roles and raid experience. What is your opinion on the matter? No matter your stance, please try to be respectful of everyone else here. Thank you! ^.^

The ast was just bad lol i mostly play ast as well

[Risvertasashi]

If it was a dungeon I'd ask why the tank hadn't pulled after 20 seconds.

Alliance raids are always a crapshow, though. If it wasn't the healer it's often an impatient DPS. Anyways, no, the AST shouldn't have pulled, but that's really a very minor thing on the list of offences that happens in those dark places.

[CorbinDallas]

There's no point even discussing something like this without knowing the intentions of the player. You said it yourself there are arguments both sides.

[Crushnight]

I find if ready check has gone through and countdown starts then placing Earthly star is fine even should countdown be stopped for whatever reason once Earthly star is placed it will be pulled in next 20 to 30 secs. Now 24m are a mix bag you may have ready checks or you may not same with countdowns so they may have done it preemptively based on random instant pull which never happened XD

[InkstainedGwyn]

Yeah that's unnecessary - a tank shouldn't have taken enough damage on an initial pull to warrant earthly star anyway. That's a skill better used to cover group damage like aoes or things like Cid's cleansing strike. Sounds like just a showoff healer.

[kikix12]

Yeah that's unnecessary - a tank shouldn't have taken enough damage on an initial pull to warrant earthly star anyway. That's a skill better used to cover group damage like aoes or things like Cid's cleansing strike. Sounds like just a showoff healer.

Earthly Star deals damage as well, and not small amount of it either. Not casting it at the beginning of battle just wastes damage. By the time you'll need it for healing it's going to be off cooldown anyway.

As for the initial post, the person specifically said "group of mobs", so it certainly was not a boss. The tanks should not have a reason to wait for the entire 20 seconds. 20 seconds is way more than enough for everyone to come to the spot and get ready to fight fodder. Granted that using Earthly Star preemptively offers greater damage potential overall, the healer did nothing wrong...except in assuming the tanks would do their basic job.

Of course, that's going by the assumption that no one used the alliance chat to say they will be back soon.

Healers even should try to avoid going near the tank when he is pulling, because it could trigger aggro when healer has regen skill casted on someone.

Healers being near the tank or not is irrelevant. Healing (including heal over time) generates aggro near the person healed. Normally that's going to be a tank, hence why healer will usually get aggro. But at that point, the healer will get that aggro even from the other side of the dungeon.

[Seddrinth]

It's an alliance raid anything goes. There are no rules.

[ElazulHP]

Sure! If the healer wants to tank the boss they can have at it and see how it goes :P

[hydralus]

Sure! If the healer wants to tank the boss they can have at it and see how it goes :P

You'd probably just get left standing around for a few minutes extra watching them clear it. We're talking about a dungeon which everyone is overgeared by 30 ilvls now.