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  1. #71
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    The teaser trailer clearly shows Tancred using a gunblade that is closer to the size and design of squall's. While this is a cg trailer, it can give us some insight into the variety of gunblades that will be available to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Ofc i do, however it matters what they have shown to us.
    They could make it bigger or they could make it smaller, and according to the type of animations this character did i really dont think it will be any bigger.
    Showing off weapon smaller than it is originally in other games make me thinking that they are showing us the "best of the best", because what sense would it make if they will show us a weapon on low lvl?
    The fact is, this weapon does not fit the original concept of gunblade being big and bulky one and a half hander, it is the length of the paladin sword.
    And yes size does matter, i dont imagine a tank with one handed weapon only.
    You must have loved when pld used daggers.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    The teaser trailer clearly shows Tancred using a gunblade that is closer to the size and design of squall's. While this is a cg trailer, it can give us some insight into the variety of gunblades that will be available to us.
    Well, Thancred was using the same Gunblade. But this thread should have already been buried when it got a shot on page 4 or so of a different angle of the Gunblade, and it turned out to not be so tiny. It's a 1-handed weapon similar to a Paladin's sword in size (probably with similar variations in size). This topic really doesn't have a reason to continue anymore. :/
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    you do know there are a lot of swords types.

    ninja uses daggers (not technically swords) red mage uses a rapier a fencing weapon that is notable for it's PIERCING, Samurai uses a katana which differs highly then a standard sword, paladin uses the standard western sword with cross guard, and dark knight uses a two handed (notable two handed sword being the zweihander) which again differs from a normal sword.

    because if you simplify the weapons to how you said it then all classes can have a form of swords,
    sword on a stick, swords strapped to your wrists,a bent out of shape sword on a stick (literal lore for war relic) little swords shot from a bow, even smaller metal swords from a gun that is shaped like a sword, have you ever had a paper cut its like a thin sword for astros Black and white mage shoot magic in the shape of swords if they wanted, Summoner and scholar write with a sword dipped in ink cullanarians use swords to make food!

    gun blade offers a different verity of a weapon, to dismiss it for something else being similar is a small part daft, as long as it's fighting style is unique and it stands out amongst a crowed then it's welcome in my eyes.

    This is true i just feel like since we got only 2 swords in stormblood that they shouldn't add another sword nxt expansion we literally shoulda got another axe weilder or hammer type
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Because we have way to many swords in game but its 2 late so it doesnt matter

    We got sam,red,drk,plly, technicaly nin uses shortsword kinda, and now gunsword lol. I knew it was going 2 happan eventually since the entire army of the empire uses them.

    But i don't approve because a large part of are weapon choice is sword big sword small sword, sword that becomes a staff, a sword that is also a gun. Then you got a sword and shield. So srry i disapprove of us getting a new sword for a long time... atleast for 6 expansions.

    We need more piercer , chopper,smash weapon types.
    It would seem you did not fully comprehend my post and I'll repeat it here again for you so as to clarify...


    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    This Gunbreaker job is already happening... pre-orders and all...and you still don't approve? But why? Because you think the gunblade is just a sword?
    I would wager that you still think the Gunblade is simply another sword... and I reckon the great Nomura who designed the first one for Squall in FFVIII would be suitably disappointed... thus, you keep wishing for "more piercer , chopper,smash weapon types".

    How can I say this in the most polite and tactful manner possible?

    The fact of the matter is that the Gunblade in itself is a very important symbol (on several levels) for the FFXIV universe that most of the veteran players... especially those who played since 1.0... can fully appreciate. I can see from your profile and your posts that you're a new player thus, I shall try to explain as best as I can.

    In 2010 when Legatus Gaius Van Baelsar was finally revealed to us in the final MSQ missions (I believe it would have been in Mission number 46 "Future's Perfect") he unleashed the Gunblade and single-handedly fought against four of the scions. You can watch the relevant scene HERE

    At the time, that cutscene was one of the most memorable events of the game. You must understand that prior to this, the only time we players had seen the Gunblade was in FFXIII (with Lightning), FFVIII (with Squall) and in FFXII with Gilgamesh. The next element to note was that for every additional job that was introduced into this game, it had to adhere seamlessly into the lore fabric of FFXIV while also integrating itself with the expansion. For example, the Samurai job class was critical to the traditional culture of Kugane and Ninja gave us an insight into Doma before Stormblood was released... and so on and so forth.

    Gunblade on the other hand is an extremely important core weapon-issue for officers of the Garlean empire that effortlessly ties itself into the upcoming lore for Shadowbringers... for everyone who understands the lore, its a no brainer. In addition, for non-citizens (or newly minted citizens) to be granted a Gunblade is an honor and also underlines the technological prowess of the empire... refer to Fordola. Not to mention, that weapon was how the Garlean's compensated for their lack of aetherial manipulation ability (or lack of being able to wield magic); hence, you will notice that there are various variations of the weapon... for reference, look at Nael's gunhalberd, Livia's gunbaghnakhs and Rhitahtyn's gunshields.

    The chopper, smash weapon that you wish for therefore seems out of place for the FFXIV lore unless of course you were referring to some of the other Garlean weapons I mentioned above (ibid). If you're still disapprove of the Gunblade and would rather view something made of... "smash"... then refer to something like Nero's Mjolnir (see below).

    I very much doubt he would approve of it to be implemented though... it's unique to Nero, plus he's not very good at sharing and exists solely in his own universe.

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    Last edited by Ramesses; 02-08-2019 at 11:55 AM.

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    [QUOTE=Ramesses;4879804]It would seem you did not fully comprehend my post and [/I]".

    How can I say this in the most polite and tactful manner possible?

    The fact of the matter is that the Gunblade in itself is a very important symbol (on several levels) for the FFXIV universe that most of the veteran players... especially those who played since 1.0... can fully appreciate. I can see from your profile and your posts that you\\'re a new player thus, I shall try to explain as best as I can.

    In 2010 when Legatus Gaius Van Baelsar was finally revealed to us in the final MSQ missions (I believe it would have been in Mission number 46 "Future\\'s Perfect") he unleashed the Gunblade and single-handedly fought against four of the scions. You can watch the ]

    All weapons can be fitted into lore in ff games hell we could even have fork weapons... so ya... i mean look at ast globe that didn\\'t fit but now its beloved.

    Weve got tribes pretty much and what weapons do barbarians prefer axes one handed 2 hand hammers... hell we could get javilins or chain based weapons
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post

    How can I say this in the most polite and tactful manner possible?

    The fact of the matter is that the Gunblade in itself is a very important symbol (on several levels) for the FFXIV universe that most of the veteran players... especially those who played since 1.0... can fully appreciate. I can see from your profile and your posts that you\\'re a new player thus, I shall try to explain as best as I can.

    In 2010 when Legatus Gaius Van Baelsar was finally revealed to us in the final MSQ missions (I believe it would have been in Mission number 46 "Future\\'s Perfect") he unleashed the Gunblade and single-handedly fought against four of the scions. You can watch the

    All weapons can be fitted into lore in ff games hell we could even have fork weapons... so ya... i mean look at ast globe that didn\\'t fit but now its beloved.

    Weve got tribes pretty much and what weapons do barbarians prefer axes one handed 2 hand hammers... hell we could get javilins or chain based weapons
    *(Raises a quizzical eyebrow)*

    ...Could you be more coherent and expatiate further?
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    Last edited by Ramesses; 02-08-2019 at 04:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    This weapon supposed to look like a longsword with a gun attached to it, not like a shortsword... It should be way longer.
    A longsword.... And then you attach the firing mechanism and magazine to be able to use it as a gun.
    Such a weapon would be too heavy to use one-handed. A longsword by itself is at the upper end of what can be practically used onehanded in combat.

    Of course I do not think such a minor thing as realism will stop the designers. since the game is already full of oversized weapons that would be unusable in real life. One could almost think the characters are trying compensating for something....
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    Ha ha ha
    And who was right?
    Gunblades are indeed smoll, so smoll and looks comically on bulky races like hothgar.
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    So yea it turns out pretty much all gun blades thus far are just shortswords :c
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