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    The devs are actually doing a great job

    Can I just say this? Because when I read this forum, I see so much negativity and complaining. "Housing is awful. Timers are awful. Your solutions are all wrong. You never listen to us. Something something spaghetti code."

    You're playing this game because you like it. If you don't, then stop playing. Because games are supposed to make you happy. It is a great game of epic proportions with beautiful aesthetics. The housing system is amazing as it is. That's why you all want a house.

    No, it's not perfect and it's great if you have suggestions about how to solve some problems. But also remember that this game is made by human beings and they have been doing a great job. The devs are trying their hardest to fulfill all our wishes. Sometimes, their solutions aren't perfect but they are testament to the fact that they are taking us seriously. That they think about our problems and that they are trying to come up with solutions.

    I'm often amazed by how much the devs are actually accommodating our requests (from such a small group of players at that!) and even come up with designs we haven't even thought of. "People are afraid housing glitches will be fixed? No worries, you can keep all your glitches. Your items start disappearing when you place too many interactionable items? We'll fix that. You're making lofts but the glitch is difficult? Here, have an actual loft and some stairs to go with it. Oh you like making forests in your basement? How about partitions made of plants. You like to create the illusion of window views? Here's a tank trimming with a view and a moon."

    If they haven't fixed the issue that you're concerned about, then trust them. They are professionals at their job and they know their game better than you. They know the technological limitations and what's a priority and what isn't. If your issue hasn't been addressed yet, then trust that they will get to it when they can. No need for conspiracy theories about how the devs are lying about server space. They have reasons for doing what they do and why they designed the game the way it is.

    And please stop saying spaghetti code. It's disrespectful and implies that the devs are or have been incompetent. You don't know if the code is actually spaghetti code. And if you're better at coding, then why don't you make your own hugely successful game just the way you want it?

    Cut them some slack. Please.
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    Housing is bad. All they have to do is add more wards to the servers that have issues with the lack of housing. It's not new technology that they can't do it. Now I could understand if housing was instanced. *cough cough* Get with the program SE, it's 2019 now. No excuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolagamer View Post
    Housing is bad. All they have to do is add more wards to the servers that have issues with the lack of housing. It's not new technology that they can't do it. Now I could understand if housing was instanced. *cough cough* Get with the program SE, it's 2019 now. No excuses.
    Or players who want housing could choose to play on those worlds that have houses available instead of trying to pack into a few overpopulated worlds then complain they can't get a house.

    SE's problem is they can't expand wards dynamically on a per world basis. To expand wards on one world requires doing it on all worlds and that would end up leaving wards emty on many worlds that still have housing available. It's a waste of server resources.

    More wards is not the solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Or players who want housing could choose to play on those worlds that have houses available instead of trying to pack into a few overpopulated worlds then complain they can't get a house.

    SE's problem is they can't expand wards dynamically on a per world basis. To expand wards on one world requires doing it on all worlds and that would end up leaving wards emty on many worlds that still have housing available. It's a waste of server resources.

    More wards is not the solution.
    Majority of us are not playing this game to furnish a house. Granted some people do but the majority isnt. So we shouldn't have to server transfer or pick a low populated server due to lack of housing. It's something that SE introduced into the game and it wasn't thought out to well especially for high population server. It's their problem to solve not ours by server transfering.
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    As I said, if it's so bad. Make a better game.
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    Ummm so let me get this straight? We're PAYING monthly to play this game and we have an issue with a certain aspect of the game and we have to make a batter game rather than telling the devs what is wrong and hoping they will fix it? Okay whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    As I said, if it's so bad. Make a better game.
    If devs team would answer the same thing anytime the community make strong critisism, FFXIV would have never gone so far and never evolve.
    This kind of comment is so useless and bring absolutely nothing to a debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    As I said, if it's so bad. Make a better game.
    Because it’s not our job to “make a better game”. Our job, as consumers, is to provide feedback for a product. The developers job is to listen to that feedback, and consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Because it’s not our job to “make a better game”. Our job, as consumers, is to provide feedback for a product. The developers job is to listen to that feedback, and consider it.
    I assumed they meant "play a better game" but ok.

    The developers job is to make video games. They dont have to listen to the player base at all. I'm 100% positive most artists do not listen to their fans. Some do for the sake of wanting more money, or as a courtesy but the best artists dont need to listen to their fans at all. You're a fan because you like the art.

    A big problem with society these days is this mindset of you get to control people with your money, and thats frankly not correct. Especially in regards to the video gaming community. Which is actually why games are getting worse cause a lot of companies are trying to conform to the players and in reality the players dont actually know what they want, so you get messy sloppy games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    A big problem with society these days is this mindset of you get to control people with your money, and thats frankly not correct. Especially in regards to the video gaming community. Which is actually why games are getting worse cause a lot of companies are trying to conform to the players and in reality the players dont actually know what they want, so you get messy sloppy games.
    Actually, the issue with games getting worse is because companies are trying to conform to the shareholders.

    It used to be that people made games so that people would have fun games to play. Thus, they earned money because people will pay money for good games.

    But somewhere along the way, shareholders and marketing teams took over and now it's just people making games to maximize profit margins, to hell with games actually being good and made with the players enjoyment in mind.

    Which, if you're aware of the current situation with some prominent companies, is backfiring hard for them as people are no longer buying their garbage they're crapping out in an attempt to milk people for all they're worth.

    As such, it's FORCING these companies to try and think about how retail works. You only survive when your customers are happy. If your customers are not happy, they don't give you their money because they no longer want your product. This is basic economics. Whether you're providing a service, or selling a product, your entire existence hinges on people wanting to pay you for what you provide.

    You bring up artists, but they're in a different situation. Many artists do what they do because that's what they like doing. Earning money is just a side effect that allows them to keep focusing on producing their art. If they didn't earn money, they'd have to make their art only part time (Which many people do).

    Business, such as those in the video game industry, have to earn money. Due to the high development costs because of many different jobs involved (Story writers, voice actors, translators, world development, character development, music composers, art and design etc). Thus, it's necessary for them to ensure they're doing what people want.

    If you want to see what happens when a video game company stops listening to their customers, go check out Blizzard. Though, I'd be quick if I were you, since they might not last that much longer...
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