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  1. #1
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    not_ya_wify's Avatar
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    The devs are actually doing a great job

    Can I just say this? Because when I read this forum, I see so much negativity and complaining. "Housing is awful. Timers are awful. Your solutions are all wrong. You never listen to us. Something something spaghetti code."

    You're playing this game because you like it. If you don't, then stop playing. Because games are supposed to make you happy. It is a great game of epic proportions with beautiful aesthetics. The housing system is amazing as it is. That's why you all want a house.

    No, it's not perfect and it's great if you have suggestions about how to solve some problems. But also remember that this game is made by human beings and they have been doing a great job. The devs are trying their hardest to fulfill all our wishes. Sometimes, their solutions aren't perfect but they are testament to the fact that they are taking us seriously. That they think about our problems and that they are trying to come up with solutions.

    I'm often amazed by how much the devs are actually accommodating our requests (from such a small group of players at that!) and even come up with designs we haven't even thought of. "People are afraid housing glitches will be fixed? No worries, you can keep all your glitches. Your items start disappearing when you place too many interactionable items? We'll fix that. You're making lofts but the glitch is difficult? Here, have an actual loft and some stairs to go with it. Oh you like making forests in your basement? How about partitions made of plants. You like to create the illusion of window views? Here's a tank trimming with a view and a moon."

    If they haven't fixed the issue that you're concerned about, then trust them. They are professionals at their job and they know their game better than you. They know the technological limitations and what's a priority and what isn't. If your issue hasn't been addressed yet, then trust that they will get to it when they can. No need for conspiracy theories about how the devs are lying about server space. They have reasons for doing what they do and why they designed the game the way it is.

    And please stop saying spaghetti code. It's disrespectful and implies that the devs are or have been incompetent. You don't know if the code is actually spaghetti code. And if you're better at coding, then why don't you make your own hugely successful game just the way you want it?

    Cut them some slack. Please.
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    Housing is bad. All they have to do is add more wards to the servers that have issues with the lack of housing. It's not new technology that they can't do it. Now I could understand if housing was instanced. *cough cough* Get with the program SE, it's 2019 now. No excuses.
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    Last edited by Nolagamer; 02-04-2019 at 04:55 AM.

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    As I said, if it's so bad. Make a better game.
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    Ummm so let me get this straight? We're PAYING monthly to play this game and we have an issue with a certain aspect of the game and we have to make a batter game rather than telling the devs what is wrong and hoping they will fix it? Okay whatever.
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    The housing timer IS bad, but since people enjoyed flipping so much, it's what we got.

    This is a huge game, that I pay a lot of money towards. I love housing (it's my favorite thing in the game), and most of the other aspects of this game. I don't participate in the things I don't enjoy. But the timer is a huge gate to anyone who wants to participate in the same activity that brings me a lot of joy. It encourages the unhealthy behavior of sitting at your game without rest for hours upon hours. It's mentally and physically taxing, especially when you lose the plot after hours invested in spamming a placard.

    I am absolutely not here for this "don't complain, if you don't like it, stop playing or make your own game." We're allowed to criticize things we don't like about the game. Have the devs added a lot of neat stuff? Yes, they have! But adding a bunch of cool furnishings (many of which came from the design contest anyways) and fixing some bugs or removing some limitations that shouldn't have been there in the first place doesn't mean everything is great and fantastic now.
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    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    As I said, if it's so bad. Make a better game.
    If devs team would answer the same thing anytime the community make strong critisism, FFXIV would have never gone so far and never evolve.
    This kind of comment is so useless and bring absolutely nothing to a debate.
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    Well, I actually enjoy this thread very much! I am sick of all the complains all the time. I mean, sure I know people don't post here to write "happy" stuff. I am aware of it, that it would be the same annoying if everybody would post all the time how cool it all is, how thankful we are and so on.

    I know people need to complain. I would like to see some thing we don't have yet as well. But I am also very patient and I think the dev can't fix EVERY problem in a night. They also keep stuff for future patches and so on. If they would go through the very long suggestion thread and would make all our wishes true at once, it would be very boring, wouldn't it. (With that I don't mean the timer issues, house flipping and the not-instance-housing)

    But I am just sure that they DO listen to us, and that they DO work on solutions. For now they gave us more wards ~1 year ago... but I think they see the issues we have and that so many people want a house, that I think they will work on that.

    But something like the interior contest was a good method for them to see what people like to build, just like not_ya_wify said. People floated the stage, so here we got lofts. They're still not perfect, but I am VERY sure they work on the next solution. That we actually legit can put any item up there and camera collision.

    So I am just excited for every patch to see what they gonna add now. I am already very grateful that we can place as many usable items as we want now, without them disappearing... and so on. So I am just happy to see for ONCE a post where someone is grateful and happy. Think about how housing started in ARR and what we all have now!

    It can and will only get better. Just not tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nolagamer View Post
    Housing is bad. All they have to do is add more wards to the servers that have issues with the lack of housing. It's not new technology that they can't do it. Now I could understand if housing was instanced. *cough cough* Get with the program SE, it's 2019 now. No excuses.
    Or players who want housing could choose to play on those worlds that have houses available instead of trying to pack into a few overpopulated worlds then complain they can't get a house.

    SE's problem is they can't expand wards dynamically on a per world basis. To expand wards on one world requires doing it on all worlds and that would end up leaving wards emty on many worlds that still have housing available. It's a waste of server resources.

    More wards is not the solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    As I said, if it's so bad. Make a better game.
    Because it’s not our job to “make a better game”. Our job, as consumers, is to provide feedback for a product. The developers job is to listen to that feedback, and consider it.
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    I actually do think they're doing a great job with housing, in that they're adding a ton of diverse furnishings and doing their best to cater to player's desires.

    But no one could argue that they didn't completely screw the pooch when they combined individual housing with FC housing. It was a terrible mistake, they've been paying for it ever since, and there's no way to fix it.
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