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    Stormblood - Where is the Storm and the Blood?

    So, we heading into 5.0

    Stormblood for me, was thematically introduced as a very "militaresque" and "revolutionary-esque" expansion. The main theme doubles as an anthem and a battle march.

    Yet, outside some very short cutscenes, some way off the main road quests, and massive lore dumps, when did this storm exactly happen? and where is the blood i was promised?

    Ghimlyt Dark is thematically impresive, is honestly the second and the only good one exposition of such a premise, military action, revolution, etc. The Ala Mhigan Palace was a good try, but fell short, Ishgard Remembers only added salt to the injury.

    Same goes for Doma, in fact, the common trait both Doma and Ala Mhigo share is that "they are in war", "they are broke" and they are "dungeons". Everything surrounding that and their cutscenes/quests is nothing but peaceful/natural overworld with absolutely no "war" let alone a STORM going for.

    As for the blood, where is it exactly? Again, last dungeon was pretty good in this regard, but during the rest of the expansion? I saw some small scale operations, there is a FATE or two, and of course some maps show signs of conflict, but nothing deep or themed enough to be ingrained into the player.

    Will the STORMBLOOD come with 4.55? I wonder, because honestly, if war and revolution where the theme of this expansion, i feel pretty much underwhelmed.
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    Tsuyu and her brother would like a word with you about the blood lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    Tsuyu and her brother would like a word with you about the blood lol
    Yeah, one of her lines in her fight is even "These blood stained hands have much more to accomplish."
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    I think you are taking the term too literally. It's not supposed to imply a literal "storm of blood" but be a representation of pushing past obstacles in light of the odds being against you. Remember, the Japanese title is The Crimson Liberator. In other words, it's not an external "storm of blood" but an internal one.
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    I have be honest, I was disappointed from the start, but that's just me wanting something different from what SE had decided.

    Truthfully, I didn't want to see Ala Mhigo liberated. I wanted to experience a crushing defeat. For the Empire to show us their might by leveling Aha Mhigo to the ground. Completely destroyed. Following that, I would have liked to see the restoration project focus on Ala Mhigo rather than Doma. I think that would have been a stronger story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    Yeah, one of her lines in her fight is even "These blood stained hands have much more to accomplish."
    Lore dump through dialog of a side character whose storyline is forgetable at best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I think you are taking the term too literally. It's not supposed to imply a literal "storm of blood" but be a representation of pushing past obstacles in light of the odds being against you. Remember, the Japanese title is The Crimson Liberator. In other words, it's not an external "storm of blood" but an internal one.
    Well, that only adds salt to injury because, i haven't seen any crimson liberator and i have definitely not seeing "pushing obstacles in light of the odds being against you", in fact, baddies can call themselves gods only so many times before that becomes meaningless and you can be called a god-killer entity so many times before that also becomes meaningless, the only part that was threatening to us was Zenos.

    Is also this crimson liberator Lyse? Because if that is so, the whole expansion is named after a character we only see past actions through cutscenes, gets the credit for things it didn't do/worked for them? What has Lyse really done, honestly, aside being the daughter of someone else and the sister of what was actually a good character.

    You are not helping your case here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    I have be honest, I was disappointed from the start, but that's just me wanting something different from what SE had decided.

    Truthfully, I didn't want to see Ala Mhigo liberated. I wanted to experience a crushing defeat. For the Empire to show us their might by leveling Aha Mhigo to the ground. Completely destroyed. Following that, I would have liked to see the restoration project focus on Ala Mhigo rather than Doma. I think that would have been a stronger story.
    Kinda what was i expecting (and i still expect someone to finally defeat us for good?) till i saw Othard being shown in the Stormblood trailer, i knew the storyline will spread way too thin as for any deeper/thematically interesting content related to Ala Mhigo, the Revolution and the war against the empire/ascians to be really fleshed out.
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    Last edited by Alexandre_Noireau; 02-03-2019 at 11:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    I have be honest, I was disappointed from the start, but that's just me wanting something different from what SE had decided.

    Truthfully, I didn't want to see Ala Mhigo liberated. I wanted to experience a crushing defeat. For the Empire to show us their might by leveling Aha Mhigo to the ground. Completely destroyed. Following that, I would have liked to see the restoration project focus on Ala Mhigo rather than Doma. I think that would have been a stronger story.
    Stormblood, oddly enough, improved over the course of the expansion at least imo. I don't think it necessarily stagnated at any point aside from Eureka, but that's another topic for another thread. The zones, story (though obviously still shrouded in mystery) and pretty much everything I've seen so far for Shadowbringers actually has me feeling a bit hyped, and normally I don't get hyped for much of anything. I just learn to keep my expectations reasonable. So far I have been pleasantly surprised and they haven't even shown everything yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Remember, the Japanese title is The Crimson Liberator.
    I've usually seen that translated as "Crimson Liberators", plural. Japanese doesn't differentiate so you'd need to confirm with the writers which one they intended.
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    Hello Alexandre, considering your statments and critics in other topics I would either say that you are a troll or that the game is not for you. You really seem to dislike a lot about it, so maybe takeing a break would help and you would send a signal. You would literaly beat two birds with one stone.
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