I wish Gunbreaker would be a DPS class.

[EdwinLi]

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Doubt that will be the mechanic since they already said the mechanic for Gunbreaker is a "Trigger" system that the Gunbreaker pulls the trigger on their Gunblade "manually" to cause extra effects similar to how Squall causes his explosions everytime he does a melee hit. It sound basically like a mini-quick time event mechanic for Gunblades to cause extra effects on all their attacks.

A corsair (sword in one hand, gun in the other) would be pretty neat job to have. I've wanted one for a long while in FFXIV.

Been hoping for a sword/Gun job for a long long time since 3.0 release as a future DPS Job. Sadly still no word on that concept and I doubt we may see it as a surprise 3rd job reveal during the next 5.0 content reveal event but who can say since Yoshi-p just love surprises for us.

[whiskeybravo]

I think hes wrapping BLU in with SHB as dps, unless theres something Im unaware of being announced.

Nope. Just the speculation.

[Vahlnir]

I think hes wrapping BLU in with SHB as dps, unless theres something Im unaware of being announced.

Yoshi P said that BLU wasn't counted as a Shadowbringers job, thankfully, so I guess that means anything can still happen.

Nope. Just the speculation.

Fair enough.

[frostmagemari]

Doubt that will be the mechanic since they already said the mechanic for Gunbreaker is a "Trigger" system that the Gunbreaker pulls the trigger on their Gunblade "manually" to cause extra effects similar to how Squall causes his explosions everytime he does a melee hit. It sound basically like a mini-quick time event mechanic for Gunblades to cause extra effects on all their attacks.

Well.. i know that won't be a mechanic for the Gunbreaker. I know it's a tank, i said i WISH that was what it was rather than the tank; and that since it's not going to have a mechanic like that, i'd like one that would, which is why i expressed favour to the blade/gun picture.

As for manually pulling the trigger? No, i don't think that will be a thing.
From the Paris interview with Yoshida...

Q: You announced that Gunbreaker would involve "pulling the trigger the moment you slash the enemy" as its battle style. Is that a command input or some kind of setting?

A: If we make the player pull the trigger every time, then controller players will get tendonitis *laughs* We plan to show it graphically, with actions that'll let you feel like you're experiencing it. We always emphasize a different game experience based on each job's base concept, so Gunbreaker will be released with its own job system as well. That will be revealed along with the battle actions in May.

[Maero]

Yay for double standards. Twisting reality to fit your argument is a wonderful skill to have...This is of course sarcasm.

We have:
3 (soon 4) tanks:
0 Ranged (Duh)
0 Casters
3 (soon 4) melee

3 (soon 4 probably) healers:
0 Ranged
3 Casters
0 Melee
Soon 1 that may be one of these.

9 DPS:
2 Ranged
3 Casters
4 Melee

For obvious reasons tanks won't be ranged, so they should have more melee and caster representatives than the other roles.

As you can see, if you are talking about role DPS trump tanks and healers. If you're talking about in-role variety...DPS still trump tanks and healers. Saying that you don't agree with there being no DPS for some time because they are still somehow underrepresented is an obvious double standard.

Now, having NO DPS for 7.0 is a bit of a stretch for a different reason. But I think that it should absolutely not be a 2-DPS expansion. Ideally 1 of each again.

Thank you, someone that actually understands what i was getting at.

It is selfish to only want dps every expansion while leaving those that tank or heal with no new toys. The state of DK one could say there is only 2 tanks atm, lol . (i am joking people, don't get all worked up)
Myself for the first time i may not be a dps main.
Besides the point this is my opinion and view only.. get over it

[Jandor]

Doubt that will be the mechanic since they already said the mechanic for Gunbreaker is a "Trigger" system that the Gunbreaker pulls the trigger on their Gunblade "manually" to cause extra effects similar to how Squall causes his explosions everytime he does a melee hit. It sound basically like a mini-quick time event mechanic for Gunblades to cause extra effects on all their attacks.

He quickly clarified that he meant the trigger thing was more an aesthetic style than an actual mechanic.

A: If we make the player pull the trigger every time, then controller players will get tendonitis *laughs* We plan to show it graphically, with actions that'll let you feel like you're experiencing it. We always emphasize a different game experience based on each job's base concept, so Gunbreaker will be released with its own job system as well. That will be revealed along with the battle actions in May.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._at_paris_fan/

Edit: oops, didn't see frostmagemari's reply.

[Lauront]

I wouldn't have minded, but bear the following in mind:

Q: Why is Gunbreaker a tank and not a DPS?
A: There are two reasons. First off, if we added it as a DPS, the numbers wouldn't be balanced anymore. We already have a lot of melee DPS, so we didn't want to add any more. The second reason is because it was about time to implement the FF series jobs that people around the world had been requesting, such as BLU. We considered that a gunblade job would make a good draw because of its flashiness and appearance, and adding it as a tank would be great for role balance. We debated about whether we could make a tank different from the ones that fight at the forefront and in the end decided to go with gunblade. There were a surprising amount of people who predicted it'd be a tank - about 70% of the community. I think that means the players are also aware of FFXIV's job balance and design policy.
Q: Right now, the three tanks are well-balanced. What will happen when you throw another job into the mix? Can you tell us roughly what Gunbreaker's special characteristics will be?
A: Honestly, please wait until May for the answer. We'll show you how the four tanks will differentiate themselves, including their new actions. We've had three tanks up to Patch 4.5, and we see tank players' preferences with regards to MTing, OTing, tank stances, etc. I don't think it'd be good for the three tanks to form a "triangle", so maybe we'll balance them by having two MTs and two OTs, or make them capable of both. Right now, we're working towards a compromise as we adjust the actions. We'll announce the battle system details in May, so please wait until then.

Source.

So, I think the best attitude to take is to see what their overall plan for tanks is, and how GBR fits into it.

[LineageRazor]

Any popular job that's not a DPS will have a contingent of players who don't like to tank or heal whining that it's not a DPS. It happened with WAR. It happened with DRK. And now, GBR. (GNB? GUN? Do we have an official acronym, yet?)

Nothing to see, here. Move along!

[whiskeybravo]

The most confounding part of that interview for me:

so maybe we'll balance them by having two MTs and two OTs, or make them capable of both.

I don't even understand that. Like, War is kind of the defacto pulling tank because of their kit, but there are compelling reasons to also let DRK and PLD MT as well (buffed TBN and shield procs). And then it also throws out a lot of designs they incorporated to keep both tanks active, like God Kefka (IMO) is one of the best designed tank fights. Neo Exdeath and Final Omega both have the "tanks need to be 1 and 2 in aggro" thing going, and Final in particular splitting up the tank busters and responsibilities like it does. Seems like all that would be in jeopardy if they are determined to arbitrarily try and split the tanks in designated MT/OT roles. The flexibility helps keep things interesting.

[frostmagemari]

The most confounding part of that interview for me:



I don't even understand that. Like, War is kind of the defacto pulling tank because of their kit, but there are compelling reasons to also let DRK and PLD MT as well (buffed TBN and shield procs). And then it also throws out a lot of designs they incorporated to keep both tanks active, like God Kefka (IMO) is one of the best designed tank fights. Neo Exdeath and Final Omega both have the "tanks need to be 1 and 2 in aggro" thing going, and Final in particular splitting up the tank busters and responsibilities like it does. Seems like all that would be in jeopardy if they are determined to arbitrarily try and split the tanks in designated MT/OT roles. The flexibility helps keep things interesting.

I really really REALLY hope they don't do this two OT and two MT thing. That's the end set up we had in ARR's launch i believe.. Paladin was MT and Warrior was OT (not by design but by result), and the OT's weren't happy that they were effectively relegated to being second string.
Doing that to two out of four tanks will result in the same kind of bitter feelings by those that play the classes.