Gunbreaker starting level

[DevilsDontFly]

It's going to be the exact same thing that happened with DRK and AST on HW:
- People that don't play tanks are going to try it out, remember why they don't like tanks and never touch it again.
- People that don't play tanks are going to try it out, realize they do like tanking and try to learn how to play it.
- People that play tanks are just going to further increasing their job options.

Yes, it has potential to be bad on a couple of runs, but I'm pretty sure people that never tanked before and have no idea of what they are doing aren't very secure or comfortable with the idea of hoping on a lvl 60 dungeons anyways, so they will most likely try to get a feel for the job through Palace of the Dead or Heaven on High.

[Seraphor]

That's... not how it works. Even though the job itself is going to be level 60, all of the skills are going to have their respective levels. It's like that with every other job that was added after ARR. It might not be the most exciting thing to get Sastasha and only have access to one skill, but it's like that for every single job.

Except thats exactly what SAM is already like.
AST has no AoE until level 54 (not even 50).
RDM is only bearable due to Scatter.

When you have it start at a high level, and have it be a complete job at that level, then as you work back down you're subtracting from that complete package.
Whereas all the starting jobs had a workable system by level 30, all the subsequent jobs dont feel complete until 50 or later.

This problem is especially bad for Tanks as DRK is almost unbearable even at 50, and PLD was already bad at low levels but is even worse now since HW and SB.
WAR is the only one thats fun to play prior to 50.

[Cabalabob]

I say start it at 80, seriously the levelling process in this game is so benign, you don’t get an idea of the job since everything changes once you hit max level, you don’t get a sense of the jobs power until you’re in ilvl gear which also means that that’s when the real “sense of progression” starts, you’re forced back into levelling content through roulettes anyway so it’s not keeping old dungeons alive. Might as well do away with levels entirely and just let us play the game at max power with obtaining ilvl gear being the real levelling system.

[Seraphor]

I say start it at 80, seriously the levelling process in this game is so benign, you don’t get an idea of the job since everything changes once you hit max level, you don’t get a sense of the jobs power until you’re in ilvl gear which also means that that’s when the real “sense of progression” starts, you’re forced back into levelling content through roulettes anyway so it’s not keeping old dungeons alive. Might as well do away with levels entirely and just let us play the game at max power with obtaining ilvl gear being the real levelling system.

So get rid of levels entirely? Start ARR at level 80?
What about stats? Should we fix those by removing them too?

I mean at least suggest they start it at 70...

[Allistar]

With the new trust system I don't see any need to start new jobs at level 60 even though it's old content there are a lot of us that still enjoy playing some of these old content on new jobs...gives us the opportunity to test out the new job and it's abilities before we jump right into the new stuff. I honestly feel that we should be given a choice of whether we want to start the new jobs at level 30 or level 60 and up. I don't mind not being world first or rushing to get everything done before anyone else I enjoy the journey and take my time and try to enjoy every aspect that the game has to offer.

[Burningskull]

I haven't read the last 3 pages but... I think it should start at lvl 30 or 50.

[Derio]

Better than bad Sam and rdm dps.

[Maero]

I certainly would not want it to start at level 1.
As for some comments, we do have tanks out there who have learned to "tank" in Palace of the Dead and fate grinding.
So what exactly is the issue with the job starting at a higher level?

I am sure all who commented about bad tanks if starting at later level you yourselves were not Pro tanks when first started.
Myself i certainly as hell was not, and i was fairly new to mmos at the time also.

[Reinha]

Level 60 seems a bit high. I'm glad I decided to spend Poetic tomes on Shire gear first because Ironworks would have been a waste.

[AxlStream]

You'll just have to beast the Tank wannabes to the punch on the new dungeons. Let the wave screw up in Castrum Abania and Doma Castle.