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  1. #1
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    ChazNatlo's Avatar
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    Mirasa Thume
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    Okay. I doubt this to be the case, but an idea ((Which may have come up already, I skipped ahead since I figured by the time I read 15 pages, I'd have another 15 pages to read on this contentious topic)) came to me.

    Maybe we'll see a male Viera in 4.55, and they aren't showing them so said character will be the first glipse of them.

    Mostly this was the only thing that I could come up with at this point for why we haven't seen anything about Male Viera, even a "This race is female only, stop speculating."((As noted before, even if the Models aren't done, they should have been able to show us design sketches))

    Otherwise their silence on the matter is a little tone deaf. ((Or hypothetically, they're drafting a proper response that won't be misconstrued.))
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    I don't think there will be too much lore-bending if because AFAIK we're getting 2 "new tribes" of Viera to fit in FF14, and not the ones of Tactics/Ivalice.

    Honestly I wonder if they're holding out just to make a super nice video of a male Viera showing the new healer class (instead of teh typical female healer). That'd garner so many screams from a crowd Yoshi-P might get knocked over by the soundwave. In before male Viera dancer instructor NPC.
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    From a business point of view it does make sense they didn't announce male Vieras. The male counterpart has never ever appeared on any of the FF titles, ever. So if we think about it, with SE being a japanese company wanting to introduce a new concept into an already estabilished lore within the franchise, it only makes sense they would do that at their homeland. It's also worth mentioning that Au Ra were revealed during the very last fanfest, which means that the female Viera reveal was something ahead of schedule.

    It is very frustrating to deal with the lack of a confirmation on the matter, but it's also possible that they want to introduce male Viera (or the supposed-to-be male only race) with the next patch as MSQ, that is going to be exactly after JP fanfest. So far the Viera don't really exist within XIV's lore unless you do an entirely optional raid sidestory quest. So I'm assuming they are going to slowly but surelly introduce the race with the MSQ narrative, and that might be the perfect opportunity to also showcase male viera, killing two birds with one stone as it would also explain why they are not so rare to be seen all of a sudden.
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    I have been called the goddess of nonsense.

    You will now know why!

    Upon my holy logic the very world lies in balance.

    AND NOW THE SCALES WILL TIP!
     リーゾン ブレーカ!

    So what if... Some or even all of the Viera we have already seen were male?
    I mean the Dramaturge said that male and female Viera are indistinguishable until puberty but... he has no idea just how distinguishable they are after, does he? Maybe their dimorphism is something so subtle and hidden that a cursory inspection still wouldn't be able to tell them apart? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN!

    ...

    On the other hand, it could be as simple as them not having finalised the assets by the time the preview footage was getting recorded. I guess we might get closer to an answer tomorrow since almost inevitably the question of bunboys will pop up in the Q&A. And then there's about 50% chance of getting teased/trolled and probably made to wait till Tokyo for the real answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    I have been called the goddess of nonsense.

    You will now know why!

    Upon my holy logic the very world lies in balance.

    AND NOW THE SCALES WILL TIP!
     リーゾン ブレーカ!

    So what if... Some or even all of the Viera we have already seen were male?
    I mean the Dramaturge said that male and female Viera are indistinguishable until puberty but... he has no idea just how distinguishable they are after, does he? Maybe their dimorphism is something so subtle and hidden that a cursory inspection still wouldn't be able to tell them apart? DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN!

    ...

    On the other hand, it could be as simple as them not having finalised the assets by the time the preview footage was getting recorded. I guess we might get closer to an answer tomorrow since almost inevitably the question of bunboys will pop up in the Q&A. And then there's about 50% chance of getting teased/trolled and probably made to wait till Tokyo for the real answer.
    Hmm... Males with breasts and sensual, feminine attire eh?
    I'm sure it would have an interested consumer base.
    However, it would certainly be a big, controversial move that might not work out for them in the end.
    When I see companies try to start being "inclusive", they usually get bitten by the people they are trying to include for not including some other identity. By definition, there is no limit to the possible identities that may be assumed, from what I've been lectured to about the subject, so it's actually impossible to account for them all.
    That being said, I wouldn't be against the concept, but plenty others would be if both male and female actually are the same asset. I already design my character to be a female that looks as male as I could make her.
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    I dont know why they're being so tight-lipped about this. Why not tease something more... idk, important? It just feels.. weirdly unfair to keep this a secret. If they are able to say "we can't show the new raid because it isn't ready" why can't they just say "we can't show male Viera because they aren't ready"? It will at least let us know that they are coming, which will then build the hype they actually want, rather than animosity.

    This is just.. all super weird imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunwins View Post
    I dont know why they're being so tight-lipped about this. Why not tease something more... idk, important? It just feels.. weirdly unfair to keep this a secret. If they are able to say "we can't show the new raid because it isn't ready" why can't they just say "we can't show male Viera because they aren't ready"? It will at least let us know that they are coming, which will then build the hype they actually want, rather than animosity.

    This is just.. all super weird imo.
    Saying "male Viera isn't ready" would be a confirmation that male viera will be a thing, when they currently can say that there's actually a male gender locked race. That being said, revealing male Viera will be kind of big not just for us in FF:XIV, but also to FF:XII, since it's not a unique race. It's transplanted strictly from FF:XII. They may want to have some of the directors from FF:XII to be present for a reveal for male Viera, or they may have even been told they weren't allowed to do a male Viera.

    I understand it's all SE, but they are large enough to have dozens of studios under them. There's probably all sorts of intra-office politics going on.

    eg. USAF has multiple Flights. You can have two working right next to eachother, both with the same aircraft. You may have a jet break, and the only spare part you need is held by the neighbor flight. You go to ask them for that part, but they tell you no, because they want to be able to fix their own jets if they break.
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    They never said Veira are Female only.
    https://twitter.com/Mrhappy1227/stat...W3iSoF3614pFg4
    So breathe people.
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    Last edited by Niqote; 02-03-2019 at 01:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    They never said Veira are Female only.
    In fact there is a little info that came out today/yesterday (depends on your timezone) that a question was asked about it and the response was something like 'we have another fan fest to go yet'. - Mr.Happy reporting this info.
    So breathe people.


    Yeah it's definitely still possible there are male viera. Although I think that they said literally nothing about males, not even like "oh, we didn't say anything about that?! Haha see you in Japan guys!", adds a bit more possibility to the leak. At least I think the most likely circumstance we'd get two races, if the leaker is right, is via two gender locked races or very dimorphic genders. While the leak has had some errors the accuracy is near impossible without having some sort of in.

    Also clans... There is some room for more info and options there. Unless someone has shown that we've already seen the clans, at least imo then they all looked like the same clan. Hopefully it's like Hyur where the differences are larger to add more value to the race. I can't tell the difference from most clans and you could just tell me whatever and I'd believe you without really looking at like "wait, you don't get that jewel option as that type - you lie!" lol.

    Edit: I've seen the happy tweet and imo that doesn't confirm much about male Viera. Only that there is more race info to come, which could be the leak for example. I just mean people shouldn't take that tweet as confirmation that they do in fact exist as an option to play.. Just that we will get more race info, which could be a lot of different things - including or not including male Viera.

    Errr I didn't say that to sound negative though, just worried people might see that tweet and then be like "SE you promised you'd add it!" haha. However, I do agree there is still much hope to remain for people who wanted X, Y, or and Z. If you wanted male viera, or a short viera, or a lion like race, all of those are still possible as of now - we're going to have to wait since there is pretty much no info on it at this time besides that there will be more info at a later time lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-03-2019 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I've seen the happy tweet and imo that doesn't confirm much about male Viera.
    The tweet does confirm it, but frankly, Yoshida hasn't revealed anything new there. We all knew that there is a Fanfest left, we all knew that they haven't said anything about genderlock, and we all knew that male Vieras were designed back in the HW days. There was no reason whatsoever to firmly believe that males weren't going to exist. I'm baffled at all this collective panic o_o
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