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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I think most super animal looking races tend to come from Eastern games, though. If by East you just mean Japan then maybe, I don't know many other Japanese mmo's to compare to, but I honestly don't think Japanese people would have any issues with a beast race lol.
    I don't know, Japan doesn't seem very big on beast races like that. 11 didn't have them and 14 hasn't had them yet. Wouldn't it be weird to have all these human-esque races and then this one that randomly looks like Tony the Tiger? :v I don't see them doing that. And it'll make girls in japan cry. They want cute stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Ronso and miqote are both cat-inspired races. :v Bunnies and cats are completely different animals.
    All of the races are human-inspired. Guess they're all the same so no one should complain with what we get!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
    All of the races are human-inspired. Guess they're all the same so no one should complain with what we get!
    now you're just being petty. :v
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I don't know, Japan doesn't seem very big on beast races like that. 11 didn't have them and 14 hasn't had them yet. Wouldn't it be weird to have all these human-esque races and then this one that randomly looks like Tony the Tiger? :v I don't see them doing that. And it'll make girls in japan cry. They want cute stuff.
    I mean, considering it's mooostly men playing this game, even more so in Japan, not sure this is a valid point lol. And again, the "East" aka China/Korea/Japan markets have plenty of Beastial characters and races in MMOs. The point of them not having it in the game so far is a different point entirely, but I don't know if that makes it more or less likely to put them in now. Like if the point is we want something completely new, beastial race is a positive. If we want something that's the same as what we have, then it's a minus. So I guess it depends on what side you're on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfyboy View Post
    This is the full context...
    Yeah, I saw it, but saying what you think isn't different doesn't exactly refute his belief in what is.
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    Japan doesn't have an aversion to playable characters that are bestial. They might not be the main character in the games that they show up in, though they still play prominent roles.

    Mareg in Grandia 2:



    Kimahri in FFX:



    Breath of Fire 2 had multiple non-human characters:



    Final Fantasy VI had Mog:



    There's a lot of others, though I don't want to spam the thread with too many images.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I mean, considering it's mooostly men playing this game, even more so in Japan, not sure this is a valid point lol. And again, the "East" aka China/Korea/Japan markets have plenty of Beastial characters and races in MMOs. The point of them not having it in the game so far is a different point entirely, but I don't know if that makes it more or less likely to put them in now. Like if the point is we want something completely new, beastial race is a positive. If we want something that's the same as what we have, then it's a minus. So I guess it depends on what side you're on.
    Actually, wasn't there a poll or something not too long ago that showed there is actually a large number of girls playing this game too? Or at least more so than the average MMO does. I'd think SE would consider what the female audience wants out of a male race too, instead of them deciding to cater to the furry fandom of all things. :v I'd venture there are more girls playing this game than furries at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thefates View Post
    Yeah, I saw it, but saying what you think isn't different doesn't exactly refute his belief in what is.
    I honestly don't know what you're getting at, and I'm sorry for that. I'll do an analogy to explain what I'm getting to.

    Ronso, Viera, Miqo'te are all races.
    Straight, Gay, Bi are all sexualities.

    Ronso = Straight (Is an anthromorphic animal that is feline), Miqo'te is Bi (Is a Kemonomimi that is feline), Viera is Gay (Is a Kemonomimi that is a bunny).

    If you seen a Bisexual with a female (Pointing out that they're feline) you could point and say he is straight, however, if you see him with a male you could say he is Gay (Pointing out they're both Kemonomimi). Basically using the poor argument about Ronso and Miqo'te are feline based well ignoring the fact that Viera and Miqo'te are both Kemonomimi isn't acting in good faith. Both Viera and Ronso share some similarities to Miqo'te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I mean, considering it's mooostly men playing this game, even more so in Japan, not sure this is a valid point lol. And again, the "East" aka China/Korea/Japan markets have plenty of Beastial characters and races in MMOs. The point of them not having it in the game so far is a different point entirely, but I don't know if that makes it more or less likely to put them in now. Like if the point is we want something completely new, beastial race is a positive. If we want something that's the same as what we have, then it's a minus. So I guess it depends on what side you're on.
    Can you at least give some examples? And maybe add on which of those mmo‘s beastly races are actually played in asian mmos?
    right of the bat popular asian mmorpg that i can think of
    bdo: not really a beastly race- mostly beautiful female huma/elves and elegant/beautiful men human/elves (1 tough male „race“, not really beastly)
    tera: maybe amani? but they are even more rare then roes
    ff14: not really beastly races
    blade &soul: not really beastly races, more of the bautiful guys/girls side (1 tough male race, not really beastly)

    these are among the ones(asian mmos) i’ve played the most
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Japan doesn't have an aversion to playable characters that are bestial. They might not be the main character in the games that they show up in, though they still play prominent roles.

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    I don't doubt they appear in games as side characters, that has always been a thing in JRPGs for as long as I can remember. But the fact they are rarely the main character is telling. I mean, just look at the census numbers for people playing Roes. There really isn't a demand for full on beast races, that's why I can't see them putting so much effort into making a race that only a small percentage of the playerbase would actually enjoy. I could be wrong though, it just doesn't seem likely to me at all.
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