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  1. #2781
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    What did she say about the 'young elezen' type ears again which seems to be the focus of attention? Did she mention young elezen type body or was she specifically talking about the ears?

    If so can - because I'm tired as heck - can someone do a compare on the size of the child elezen ears compared to the adult? I'm assuming the younger elezen has smaller ears, for which if turned upright to sit on top of the head would look extremely small when compared to the ears of an already seen female viera's ears. And of course all of the young elezen I've seen so far have the same ears due to the same model? They'd still be bigger than miqote ears, however. If this is right then the mane of hair would more than likely dominate the 'head' more than the ears. It should be noted that 'hares' have much smaller ears than rabbits and smaller limbs - on the other side they're a lot more muscular.

    This of course, is me focusing on the fact she was simply using the 'young elezen' ears as a base mark for the ears... Not their body.
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 03-11-2019 at 11:23 AM.

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    She was talking about customization options for Viera, talking about how they were making variants for the hairstyles to have bangs or no bangs, and then they showed floppy ears to which she confirmed floppy ears would be available. She then said the line that there was a variation that looked like a young elezen. Her words could also be translated to mean combination, not just variation, but that's the way the translator opted to translate it.

    Viera already look like elezen, she was in all intents talking about customization features for the viera, and that with their faces and hair they could look like a young elezen (likely with bunny ears). This picture here already looks exactly like an elezen except with bunny ears:


    We can also see from the Viera reveal trailer that they potentially have quite a diverse range of height available to them. We see a group of them standing together and the two in the back are quite significantly two very different heights despite appearing to be standing on the same elevation. So it's easy to see how picking a certain face and hair, and adjusting a height, one could easily look like a young elezen.

    It really feels like people are jumping to conclusions regarding her comment to meaning there was some completely new subrace when that really isn't all that likely.
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    I think that people forget this is also kind of a performance for the team and that the translators use of words were probably already pre determined. It’s was a cute hint at something.
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  4. #2784
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
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    Ah, thank you! Then yes, it does seem like quite a jump to make regarding the young elezen variant then, at least in regards to a subrace.

    There did seem to be a big difference in height with the Viera in the video, so the possibility of a larger height scale difference compared to most races? If Hrothgar is the 'male' version then I expect them to also have some sort of similar scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by artyport View Post
    I think that people forget this is also kind of a performance for the team and that the translators use of words were probably already pre determined. It’s was a cute hint at something.
    We can't go by that because it can be argued both ways; such as 'this is likely to be our last race' yet we have Hrothgar - or Yoshida's lines on 'gender locking'. And of course when asked about the male his words were to go look at the lore from the dramaturge which didn't give us an answer. So, eh, doubt they had the words predetermined - she was silenced for a reason and the poor woman was extremely nervous.
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  5. #2785
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    What did she say about the 'young elezen' type ears again which seems to be the focus of attention? Did she mention young elezen type body or was she specifically talking about the ears?

    If so can - because I'm tired as heck - can someone do a compare on the size of the child elezen ears compared to the adult? I'm assuming the younger elezen has smaller ears, for which if turned upright to sit on top of the head would look extremely small when compared to the ears of an already seen female viera's ears. And of course all of the young elezen I've seen so far have the same ears due to the same model? They'd still be bigger than miqote ears, however. If this is right then the mane of hair would more than likely dominate the 'head' more than the ears. It should be noted that 'hares' have much smaller ears than rabbits and smaller limbs - on the other side they're a lot more muscular.

    This of course, is me focusing on the fact she was simply using the 'young elezen' ears as a base mark for the ears... Not their body.
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/373886703 specifically it's from right here.
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  6. #2786
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    We've been specifically directed to the in-game text where Viera men are concerned. To me it reads as we're either not getting them at all due to how they 'simply do not exist to us' or we will end up getting them somehow but they'll be the fierce and rugged protectors of the forest that they're described as and implied to be.
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  7. #2787
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    "But the lore," I say as I create an Au Ra character at the start of ARR.
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  8. #2788
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    We've been specifically directed to the in-game text where Viera men are concerned. To me it reads as we're either not getting them at all due to how they 'simply do not exist to us' or we will end up getting them somehow but they'll be the fierce and rugged protectors of the forest that they're described as and implied to be.
    yeah the line "searching for them will find disappointment or even death" is a big omen
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  9. #2789
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    The creator of Viera went out of his way to make many other elements of Ivalice fit into FFXIV very smoothly. Yet in the case of Viera, he chose to describe the men exactly as they were implemented into FFXII and the other applicable games.

    Add to that Yoshi-P stating outright in the past that he found Viera men to be 'weird' the chances aren't looking all that good. I'd say it's best to avoid getting too optimistic to prevent disappointment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    "But the lore," I say as I create an Au Ra character at the start of ARR.
    Pretty much this.
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