Gender locked race?

[Allegor]

that's what one of my issues in regards of this race and lore relation.... the look of the male of a race could be varied differently based on lore but rarely applied to the female.

it's the same case with SE tendency to associate healer job with female, because apparently big bulky guy looks weird channeling magic from a distance, healing people *rolleyes*

Well, as other comment showed...

Fanservice oriented dimorphism and gender coded roles are [sadly] a staple in gaming and don't think either will be gone anytime soon. If Dancer is confirmed as the next healer, despite being a male roe of all things, I will still level it, but I can almost guarantee it will be blatantly feminine.

[Duskane]

Well, as other comment showed...


Fanservice oriented dimorphism and gender coded roles are [sadly] a staple in gaming and don't think either will be gone anytime soon. If Dancer is confirmed as the next healer, despite being a male roe of all things, I will still level it, but I can almost guarantee it will be blatantly feminine.

i don't expect dancer to have overly feminine style to it
who knows job could have male and female unique attack animations
but yeah i don't think the job to be like WHM as example with moves like Assize

[NessaWyvern]

I think male Viera should be made to look more like hares, as they are less cute and look more muscly than rabbits. Males should have longer limbs, more muscle definition and slightly longer skinnier tails. The light and dark markings around a hare's eyes could look interesting on male Viera characters.

If yoshida feels weird about bunny boys, tell him they're Hare Hyurs! Hares are also much more solitary and the males I have seen boxing look pretty fierce.

(Also I want to make hare puns and jokes. Like "Hare I am! Geddit? Coz I'm a Viera? ")
(What do you call Viera players that like to make their characters look good? A Hare-Stylist.)

[Gwenorai]

I think male Viera should be made to look more like hares, as they are less cute and look more muscly that rabbits. Males should have longer limbs, more muscle definition and slightly longer skinnier tails. The light and dark markings around a hare's eyes could look interesting on male Viera characters.

If yoshida feels weird about bunny boys, tell him they're Hare Hyurs! Hares are also much more solitary and the males I have seen boxing look pretty fierce.

(Also I want to make hare puns and jokes. Like "Hare I am! Geddit? Coz I'm a Viera? ")
(What do you call Viera players that like to make their characters look good? A Hare-Stylist.)

Funnily enough one of the performers stated that the empire sent in platoons into the woods to round up the 'hares' and they ended up getting slaughtered; those that returned were with Viera who came at their own freewill. I've never heard of the females being called 'Hares' - so heck, perhaps 'Hares' is a derogatory term or something; or perhaps the males are seen as 'Hares'

[username1234]

The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.

[Lacan]

The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.

Well, I think Alphinaud is only tiny because he hasn't hit his elezen growth spurt yet. Eventually he's going to jump up to Haurchefant size. I get what you mean though. There is no option for really slender, feminine men.

[Fland]

If Dancer is confirmed as the next healer, despite being a male roe of all things, I will still level it, but I can almost guarantee it will be blatantly feminine.

The AF would probably be designed more towards female aesthetics. But at least we could glamour over it. Now the job animations on the other hand... there's nothing we can do about them. I'm hoping at least there are some animations similar to ffxi dancer, which are quite neutral.

FFXI Galka Dancer

The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.

I don't think Alphinaud is feminine tho. Even if you're talking strictly about appearance and not mannerism.
But if we do get male viera, then yeah it'd be nice to have two subraces where they differ in physical characteristics (one is short and slender). Honestly this could be a way for SE to make something different (subraces even more varied than between the hyurs) and increasing the hype for the expansion.

[MrKimper]

The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.

Alphinaud isn't...feminine, he's just young, he's a young boy as yoshida has explained.

And also as Yoshida has explained in the past with the child miqo'te models there are certain problems that come with adding in child-like races like that, the lalafell are an exception because they're dwarfish and their anatomy is much much more exaggerated compared to something like the harvin from GB.

That being said I understand the desire for an 'elegant' looking male race with a more feminine aesthetic, I'd rather like if male viera were tall and elegant, or if the theory about the subraces being unique gave hrothgar a similar tall elegant looking subrace.

[Alesone]

I think people are getting their hopes up too much for drastically different subclans. For one, they already spelled out what the Viera ones are (Rava and Veena), and two, subclans having different models like Hyur is the same amount of work as two races, even if they take shortcuts and share all emotes/animations, it's still a lot of additional assets to make when we already know they're going out of their way with viera hairstyles having bangs on/off variants and had to do some kind of change regarding helmets for them.

There's wishful thinking sure, but people maybe need to adjust their expectations based on the likely reality of the situation.

[MrKimper]

I think people are getting their hopes up too much for drastically different subclans. For one, they already spelled out what the Viera ones are (Rava and Veena), and two, subclans having different models like Hyur is the same amount of work as two races, even if they take shortcuts and share all emotes/animations, it's still a lot of additional assets to make when we already know they're going out of their way with viera hairstyles having bangs on/off variants and had to do some kind of change regarding helmets for them.

There's wishful thinking sure, but people maybe need to adjust their expectations based on the likely reality of the situation.

Eh, who's to say, my expectations for eureka was for it to be one zone almost identical to diadem just solely existing for the relic, and while pagos is hot garbage I was still surprised they went through the effort of making each zone have it's own sort of unique mechanic.

I don't think we can really call wishful thinking until the fan fest drops, especially with the comments we were given about the "young elezen race" and such. We don't know what reality is until it actually happens after all :P. That being said I do see where you're coming from.