Gender locked race?

[Wolfyboy]

If they're trying to give us Hrothgar as a substitute for male Viera, they should at least try to fill some of the expectations people had from Viera though. People aren't going to be happy if they're given something completely different and told to just forget about male Viera. That'll go over terribly.

Honestly, I see making Hrothgar the male Viera as a lose situation that no one should want. Based on the description of both leakers the male Viera equivalent won't look like what most people want out of it, and if they base it on rabbits that slashes a mark of actually ever including male Viera in the first place. We know a general idea of how it'll look like and if it is based on Ronso/bara cat it'll probably use a modified body of Roe. It is a lose situation for people who want something more bestial since they could go in the next fanfest, "Oh, Viera isn't the last race! We said probably, remember guys? It is actually Hrothgar!" and if they decide to ever do work for more races instead of unlocking Viera/Hrothgar is gives them an easy out of saying, "Well, we already have a male and female based rabbit races. We would prefer to do something different this time."

Cause even if they say these are the last races, I don't fully believe them. >.> I'm very bad at getting my points across so I'll try to do tldr.

1) Hrothgar and Viera are female/male bunny races. Hrothgar is as described to be basically Roe with bunny ears. Developers think that should satisfy folk and never unlock these races, it is a male and female bunny race after all. Both groups are unsatisfied. They can now add a completely different race (which would make Viera fans lose in the end)

2) Hrothgar and Viera are both different races that satisfy different groups. People on forums make a ruckus (temporarily unsatisfied) , they unlock them later since they don't have an excuse. Both groups get what they want.

3) They unlock Viera and Hrothgar which are both bunny races. (bestial race advocates lost)

[cicatriz313]

I dunno if they'll try to fit any expectations people have if they aren't making male Viera... besides it being male. Like if they're decidedly against doing male Viera enough to do a completely different race, they're gonna do something different lol. Also, whose expectations are they going to try to fill exactly? So many different versions of what people want from male Viera, trying to shove all of those into a "different" race... yeah I don't see it. I would just expect incineroar and if you get something less bulky it's a pleasant surprise lol.

[Lacan]

Honestly, I see making Hrothgar the male Viera as a lose situation that no one should want. Based on the description of both leakers the male Viera equivalent won't look like what most people want out of it, and if they base it on rabbits that slashes a mark of actually ever including male Viera in the first place. We know a general idea of how it'll look like and if it is based on Ronso/bara cat it'll probably use a modified body of Roe. It is a lose situation for people who want something more bestial since they could go in the next fanfest, "Oh, Viera isn't the last race! We said probably, remember guys? It is actually Hrothgar!" and if they decide to ever do work for more races instead of unlocking Viera/Hrothgar is gives them an easy out of saying, "Well, we already have a male and female based rabbit races. We would prefer to do something different this time."

Cause even if they say these are the last races, I don't fully believe them. >.>

Yea, I do see what you're saying there, but I just can't imagine them announcing a wildly different kind of race to go with Viera. They have to know people have their expectations primed for some version of male Viera, regardless of what form it takes, and for them to give people something completely out of left field is going to leave people feeling burned. Especially if the new race is something that is going to appeal to a small subset of people, (i.e. the bara people). :v

I mean, can you imagine Japanese girls reacting to a giant cat race that shares a body model with roes? Japanese girls who were expecting cute doe eyed bunny boys to fawn over? Do you really want Yoshi to break their hearts?

[Gwenorai]

Yea, I do see what you're saying there, but I just can't imagine them announcing a wildly different kind of race to go with Viera. They have to know people have their expectations primed for some version of male Viera, regardless of what form it takes, and for them to give people something completely out of left field is going to leave people feeling burned. Especially if the new race is something that is going to appeal to a small subset of people, (i.e. the bara people). :v

I mean, can you imagine Japanese girls reacting to a giant cat race that shares a body model with roes? Japanese girls who were expecting cute doe eyed bunny boys to fawn over? Do you really want Yoshi to break their hearts?

Obviously, we're going to get daddy byakko body type. Can't have them having the same type of body as male roe - let's face it, that's all that roe has going for it. They are the buff bear.

[Lacan]

Obviously, we're going to get daddy byakko body type. Can't have them having the same type of body as male roe - let's face it, that's all that roe has going for it. They are the buff bear.

I'd be okay with this! That's a good middle ground.

[Wolfyboy]

I dunno if they'll try to fit any expectations people have if they aren't making male Viera... besides it being male. Like if they're decidedly against doing male Viera enough to do a completely different race, they're gonna do something different lol. Also, whose expectations are they going to try to fill exactly? So many different versions of what people want from male Viera, trying to shove all of those into a "different" race... yeah I don't see it. I would just expect incineroar and if you get something less bulky it's a pleasant surprise lol.

I kind of understand this. I'll tell you I was really excited for what male Au'ra could bring. I tried so hard to like them but they were nothing of what I wanted. That is what I hate about concept art without them specifically putting their views on it. We don't know what they'll most likely decide out of all wildly different options, so different in fact that they might as well be completely different races.

Actually, when they do new races I'd like to see the comment they put similar to the art panel in fan-fest about the stages they did to make Yotsuyu. It would definitely help make us understand what they're trying for.

[xbahax92]

If they're trying to give us Hrothgar as a substitute for male Viera, they should at least try to fill some of the expectations people had from Viera though. People aren't going to be happy if they're given something completely different and told to just forget about male Viera. That'll go over terribly.

The problem is, for Au Ra female/male we had at least artworks (even if they differ by a lot from it). But Hrothgar are just a mystery to us. I blame SE for not being informative on this. It does build hype, but it can turn into something really bad within seconds. Once people realize Hrothgar are totally not their type, its gonna cause massive disappointment. Even more if they're going to be our male Viera substitute.

[347SPECTRE]

The problem is, for Au Ra female/male we had at least artworks (even if they differ by a lot from it). But Hrothgar are just a mystery to us. I blame SE for not being informative on this. It does build hype, but it can turn into something really bad within seconds. Once people realize Hrothgar are totally not their type, its gonna cause massive disappointment. Even more if they're going to be our male Viera substitute.

I'd be more inclined to place more of the blame on the leaker, SE is still at least partially to blame for a half-hearted reveal.

[jameseoakes]

I'd be more inclined to place more of the blame on the leaker, SE is still at least partially to blame for a half-hearted reveal.

The Shadowbringers information does seem odd as the product is up for pre-order and we still don't even know most of the core content that will be in it (at least one job, how the races work etc). That seems odd to me...

[cicatriz313]

The Shadowbringers information does seem odd as the product is up for pre-order and we still don't even know most of the core content that will be in it (at least one job, how the races work etc). That seems odd to me...

This is the same as how Stormblood was though, preorders went up in Jan and the last Fanfest was in Feb... It doesn't seem odd at all.