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  1. #831
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    Where are you getting that from?
    There's been lots of discussion in Japanese communities about them.
    Surely you've seen all the art that's been floating about. There was even a thread in the JP forums full of people confused as to why they weren't being shown.
    Sorry, that was sarcasm. Yoshi P said he thinks male bunnies are weird.
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  2. #832
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyomaZZ View Post
    i hope female viera only
    I hope we get both genders we'll see whos hope becomes true
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  3. #833
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    The Wind-up Mithra is wearing the Scorpion Harness and we still got the Scorpion Harness in game as well. So just because a minion is wearing it doesn't exclude it from being given as a gear piece.
    fair enough never saw it i still feel it's unlikely to get 2 non eureka(high ilv stuff) body pieces as potential stuff in Hydratos pool of items but we will see Tuesday/Wednesday
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  4. #834
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Sorry, that was sarcasm. Yoshi P said he thinks male bunnies are weird.
    OF ALL the things we have in this game male bunnies are weird to Yoshi?
    They have a great opportunity to showcase how male Vieras look like and stop hiding behind silly "historic" and "lore" excuses.
    This is not FFT or FFXII it's another game.
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  5. #835
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taykawai View Post
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    Still thin we will get rev or a new race.
    Do you hate me, why, why, why do you do this to me?



    Lol. It scares because Rev is part of the tactics universe that we're going to "sort of" visit soon, so it adds a bit of weight to it.. But if they were going to add a beasty race and they skip Ronso for a naked cat face (with a baby mane), I will feel so trolled lol. (Doesn't have to be Ronso but we all know it's supposed to be a lion like race according to the leak, so Rev, Ronso, etc).
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  6. #836
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    Rev are so damn ugly, if they really are the counter part to male Viera, they will probably be played less than Roe's right now xD

    Rev have even less lore in the entire Ivalice games and telling me we can play them, even if they probably are as rare as male Viera, is just a good joke really xD
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 02-09-2019 at 04:44 AM.

  7. #837
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    Gwenorai's Avatar
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    I think regarding the comment the 'male bunnies are weird', part of me thinks it's regarding the whole idea that the male would look like the female. The female is slender, sexy and busty. You look at them, and obviously, the first thing you think is 'catwalk creamer' not 'warrior'.

    Male Viera has distinct lore that makes them for lack of a better word 'hardcore badasses'. They are extreme in regards to survival. I can't think of one other race in FF lore that has a history that is more 'Damn' in regards to how they live than the males.

    At the age of 13, they're taken away from their loving mothers, sisters, aunts etc. - a warm community. They're then thrown into the wild and looked over by a male Viera who has been trained to live alone, hunt alone and survive at all costs. Only the strongest of males who have reached master can breed after all, so any male who picks up the jack kit is going to be creme of the crop.

    Anyway, the small child is then raised by someone who is distant and knows that they are likely to die. A parallel to this? Anyone seen DBZ where Picollo takes Gohan and forces him through that horrid training regime?

    Not exactly the best of life. For decades they're trained to survive by this elder male, for which most don't survive the training - and even less survive the right of passage that gives them the title 'master'.

    Now they're masters and can seek out their seclusion. To fight alone, shun all others and be extremely fierce and cold-blooded warriors.

    Does this imagery paint cuteness?
    I have to ask; reading this, is the image you paint in your head someone who is small, adorable and thin? Or the opposite; fierce looking, a scowl on the face, determined to do the job yet disengaged from it and a body sculpted from years of training, hunting their food; surviving from the meat of their kills, leather and furs for their clothes? Scars and long hair, a look of a man who would rather kill you than talk to you - that's what I can imagine when I read into the lore. The women are elegant; the men are almost feral.

    This is what I think Yoshida wants, and this is where the difficulty comes of trying to create that and yet keep them close enough to their female counterpart.

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    I think this also could have been tied into the bunny outfit out of respect for the male Viera. It's fine on the females, cute and adorable, or strong and athletic. While for the males who are wearing, most of the time it's to look cute and flamboyant.

    Again, speculation. But I can see why he would think the idea is weird if he's going by lore and wants to follow that in terms of just how they are. How their appearance should also be a product of how they were raised - this, of course, doesn't include those who are going to RP their own histories and all that doesn't include the harshness of the wood.

    And if its simply him thinking they're weird because rabbit + male = ew wtf. Then wth Yoshi?
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  8. 02-09-2019 03:04 AM
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    Dumb argument is dumb

  9. #838
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Does this imagery paint cuteness?
    No it doesn't!

    I definitely would imagine male viera who had to live such a life to be rugged "men" with also some absolutely crippling social skills lol.

    I doubt SE would do it but it would be interesting to see a critique of the idea of sending off people to live in isolation like that- not a hamfisted one either. Like besides seeing the system does work in some ways (good side) we also find a softer (doesn't have to be literally lol) male viera who's barely making it by, very depressed about it all, and just wants to live in a community. Perhaps even give us a choice in this quest line to force him into isolation "for the good of the tribe" or to help them escape into some ARR/Stormblood area to find the life they've always wanted. Could even be a beast tribe gameplay we help prop up of some runaway males and females (when I say beast tribe I mean the system, not that they're beasts per say).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-09-2019 at 03:24 AM.

  10. #839
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
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    That is the thing though SE has full creative freedom with the males they don't have to be a one for one like the females they can make them however they want. The biggest hurdle to overcome is the developers if they really don't want to make them they won't happen and i highly doubt Yoshi will force his team to do them this is the variable we have no clue on and the biggest variable to a yay or nay on male viera
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  11. #840
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Does this imagery paint cuteness?
    Reminder that we have a race who are capable of such feats as:
    • Living in a barren desert and subsiding off their own bodily fluids
    • Hunting animals and carving weaponry from their bones
    • Taming any kind of ferocious, wild beast in less than a week
    • Viciously slaughtering one another for fun
    and so forth.
    this is what the girls look like.
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