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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericMagus View Post
    Yes this is FFXIV Ivalice and FFXIV Viera, however they're both based off of FFXII and FFT incarnations. This means they still have to deal with the original right owners, but they also need to have permission in the first place to do so.
    It's Square Enix anyway; Square at that time for FFT, but still SE. They own the rights on the whole Final Fantasy licence. They can throw Kefka in a raid, Krile as an NPC.
    Just like Bloodborne has Moonlight Greatsword, originating from other From Software games. They can do what they want with their original creations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Yes, it does, for that community or....
    http://prntscr.com/mhy6f5
    Yeah... that's just me using those specific words gender lock etc; I'm sure there are more threads on their forum of people screaming about the gender class lock. Bound to be more on other media websites.
    http://prntscr.com/mhyb27
    The same with Tera. Just search results from using those specific words in their forum, bound to be a lot more.
    I never said people wouldn't complain about it, but even your evidence shows that it's perhaps not a huge issue. For example none of the Black Desert threads are even from 2018-2019, and they're on average around 25 posts long.

    And a lot of the Tera complaints are because the new classes are gender locked, not that there's genderlocked races. There is a big difference between a new race that can be every job but can only be one gender, and releasing a brand new job that only some races/genders can use.

    New races are little more than cosmetic choices, whereas new classes are playable new content.




    And if males died while summoning a primal. Well, Viera got a bigger problem on their hands. Like going extinct.
    It's less them dying while summoning and more them becoming tempered, essentially slaves of which the game has established there's not really any way to free someone from that.

    Even then, a bigger problem such as extinction because their males got wiped out sure would be a unique flavor to the viera lore and setting that would certainly provide an interesting hook while also giving further reasoning for male viera to not be playable. It's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    A few news articles ranging across the years and its very common to see the negative stigma that gender locking brings.
    Most of these articles are just opinion pieces though, and what few comments the articles have on them are mixed bags between people who don't like genderlocks and people who aren't bothered by them. Showing again it's not particularly something that bothers a lot of players.



    Black desert online and Tera could've both been more successful had they not added gender lock on their classes forcing people to play their way rather than the player's way will create attrition.
    Tera released with little gender locking (just the male only Baraka race, and arguably the elin/popori.) And it was player data and marketing information (as well as development cost/budget) that pushed them to go forward and introduce gender locked classes available to the most popularly played race/genders, and for the most part it worked for them.

    Now all of that is my side so if you can find news articles in favour of gender locking races/jobs i'll be very interested in reading them as be good to get that perspective.
    I mean in this day and age with everyone capable of being an Internet journalist/blogger there's not much merit in pulling up one off opinion pieces because people have all kinds of opinions on everything. Games journalist websites are not authorities when it comes to virtually anything.

    But you can see in this very thread plenty of people that have no problem with gender locked races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    It's Square Enix anyway; Square at that time for FFT, but still SE. They own the rights on the whole Final Fantasy licence. They can throw Kefka in a raid, Krile as an NPC.
    Just like Bloodborne has Moonlight Greatsword, originating from other From Software games. They can do what they want with their original creations.
    Even interhouse they have to deal with copyright. It's one of the reasons why we have a Guest Creator in Matsuno who is also here as well and credited.

    For example, Nier:Automata is developed by Platinum Games, but the Publishing rights is held by SE. Does that mean that Square has full control of it to put it in their game? No, of course not. While SE as a whole may have copyright for FF as a whole, their still are games and certain aspects of FF that Yoshi has to personally ask for and request, while he is high up he can't just put in Kefka "because I can."

    Yoshi can't put in any kind of FF thing he wants that belongs to another FF game otherwise he risks plagiarizing others work inside the company. Remember, Yoshi may be part of SE, but he still has to deal with rights to IPs and copy right still.
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    P.S I meant in regards to Yoshi's access in regards, not SE as a whole entity.
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    While we're at it, let's genderlock and racelock Dancer to female Viera only.
    I'm sure tons of ffxiv players would love it.
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    If their males are that few in number that a few adventurers going out and about would put their race in peril maybe they shouldn't be living on their own out the woods in the first place.
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    If people want to, they can read up Japanese copyright for a better understanding, it's far more different than for Western copyright laws
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    I guess in the end we'll see come march. If we have the males, yay - I'm sure people will complain that they didn't like what they got in terms of appearance but I'd be happy with it, even if I dislike how they look. If they genderlock then I suppose we'll see how much fuss is kicked up and if it matters to the development team.

    Those who tend to be fine with genderlocks aren't affected by them.
    Le shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I guess in the end we'll see come march. If we have the males, yay - I'm sure people will complain that they didn't like what they got in terms of appearance but I'd be happy with it, even if I dislike how they look. If they genderlock then I suppose we'll see how much fuss is kicked up and if it matters to the development team.

    Those who tend to be fine with genderlocks aren't affected by them.
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    Pretty much this. Nobody is going to convince each other, and nobody's going to convince SE. Those who want it to be lore-breaking will always see it as lore-breaking, those who want it to be instituted will either be happy or sad when it is or isn't. SE already has their plans, and I really don't expect anyone is going to convince them otherwise.

    Maybe sufficient backlash could sway them, but it didn't re: BLU, so I don't expect it here.

    Personally, the damage is done - I'll be disappointed in them if they don't release male viera, and if they do (& announce it at Tokyo FF) I still think it's telling that they either 1) are so focused on hype or 2) have so little to announce that they have to reserve an entire gender of a race (that should, by rights, just be a given, like wow, you're getting the left AND the right shoe in this pair of shoes!) for a separate announcement. Is 5.0 really so barebones that they don't have more they can share?
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