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    Im pretty sure Yoshi has his spies on this thread down and they're probably collecting all the ideas and weird stories.
    They sure have fun and laughing their butts off. But know this Yoshi-P! You cant fool me!
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    Zero indication of it yet. People are inferring too much from their silence on the topic.
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    If we are getting male viera, and the male viera are the variant that look like "young elezen", then I think the height difference and build will look like this

    It's possible that viera is gender locked, and that this variant is a female viera that looks like a young elezen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    If we are getting male viera, and the male viera are the variant that look like "young elezen", then I think the height difference and build will look like this

    It's possible that viera is gender locked, and that this variant is a female viera that looks like a young elezen.
    It's going to be a lot more drastic than that.
    If by "young Elezen" they're referring to the child characters (i.e. Rielle) then this supposed second Viera variant will be tiny. As in about half/three quarters the size of the other.

    Let's just assume that both characters in this image are the average height their respective races.
    Fran is slightly taller than an Elezen.
    Now let's compare the height of a young Elezen with an adult Elezen.
    (Lala for scale)

    These buns will be absolutely dinky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
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    haha omg that's pretty short but I'd be ok with it still. Although in the video clip, they said that the variant looks like a "sort of young elezen", and that "we knew who"? I'm guessing the "who" would be Alphinaud, who is a young elezen. I think we're lacking a short and slim body type for males. Miqo'te still has muscle to them, and although elezen is tall, they aren't short. I think a body type like Alphinaud's would be good.
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    While I can imagine them being smaller than the females in height, to be the same size as elezen - not child elezen, I can't imagine them being 'cute' nor dainty looking. Specifically, because Yoshida really dislikes the idea of them being cute. He wanted them to be more beast and fierce looking. Otherwise, if they're 'cute' I think his words were along the lines that they'd just look like miqote but with bunny ears and not a tail.

    I don't know. All I'm 100 percent of is that he's really against the idea of the males being anything that could be considered 'adorable' and 'cute' looking - at least without the creator of the toon going out of their way to specifically make them look like that through nice arduous work with the character creator. Meaning that 'cute' wouldn't exactly be the primary look for the face, and skinny and small would be the extremes of the slider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    While I can imagine them being smaller than the females in height, to be the same size as elezen - not child elezen, I can't imagine them being 'cute' nor dainty looking. Specifically, because Yoshida really dislikes the idea of them being cute. He wanted them to be more beast and fierce looking. Otherwise, if they're 'cute' I think his words were along the lines that they'd just look like miqote but with bunny ears and not a tail.

    I don't know. All I'm 100 percent of is that he's really against the idea of the males being anything that could be considered 'adorable' and 'cute' looking - at least without the creator of the toon going out of their way to specifically make them look like that through nice arduous work with the character creator. Meaning that 'cute' wouldn't exactly be the primary look for the face, and skinny and small would be the extremes of the slider.
    I think there's some middle ground between "hulking beast virtually unrelated in design to the females" and "little teeny chibi boye" where a good design lies.
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    Alphinaud height compared to elezen sorta

    anyone have a better pic that show's Alphinaud's height compared to a player character?
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    I can't really see male Viera being short and "young Elezen" in appearance. Wouldn't they look more feral due to living in isolation and, depending on what they do, maybe buff?

    Honestly, SE should have just given the Viera lore completely unrelated to FFXII's (I would still prefer they weren't going to be playable in this game at all). The way they wrote the males is far more restrictive than the male Miqo'te (I imagine male Viera who stray from their duties would probably be hunted down by their own kind if they stay/enter the Great Wood).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
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    Apparently, there's going to be a variant that looks sort of like a "young elezen". Sort of, not exactly like. So who knows.
    Whether this variant is going to be male viera or if viera is going to be female only, no one knows. If it's female only, then the variant will just look similar to a young looking female elezen.
    Personally, if the male is the "young elezen" variant, I can't imagine they would be bulky. It's possible they can still look feral, even if short and slim. I think they would retain some of the same kind of grace the female viera have.
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