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    Flan Vongola
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    Just because of leaks and bugs im not obligated to trust these. And everyone tried to stay positive on this subject, because we knew everyone who shows up in this thread is just excited for seeing them.
    And yes lore stated more than enough that they do not exist to us, but that lore has been contradicting itself so many times.. so it doesnt matter where its stating. Unless its an official statement things will be always unclear.
    And whats happening right now?
    People ragequit and make a big tantrum. Like always. Eureka release, Bluemage being announced, but it will settle down and people that deeply care for it will still fight for a change. A change like having Male Miqo/Female Roe/Highlander, same sex eternal bond and Viera (even if female for now)
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    Fayt Azuresky
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Just because of leaks and bugs im not obligated to trust these. And everyone tried to stay positive on this subject, because we knew everyone who shows up in this thread is just excited for seeing them.
    And yes lore stated more than enough that they do not exist to us, but that lore has been contradicting itself so many times.. so it doesnt matter where its stating. Unless its an official statement things will be always unclear.
    And whats happening right now?
    People ragequit and make a big tantrum. Like always. Eureka release, Bluemage being announced, but it will settle down and people that deeply care for it will still fight for a change. A change like having Male Miqo/Female Roe/Highlander, same sex eternal bond and Viera (even if female for now)
    I mean leaks that are 95% accurate and you don't believe them, fine. That's up to you. But not believing actual game files stating that a second race is coming and knowing how the dev team is to assume we will get only one pair is on you. Yoshi didn't say anything because he was saving Hrothgar for Tokyo, simple. You guys built your own hype up and now you're crashing and it's your own fault. Definitely fight for a change, but this amount of disappointment could have been negated. You were not "lied to", I've seen that thrown around a lot and it's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I mean leaks that are 95% accurate and you don't believe them, fine. That's up to you. But not believing actual game files stating that a second race is coming and knowing how the dev team is to assume we will get only one pair is on you. Yoshi didn't say anything because he was saving Hrothgar for Tokyo, simple. You guys built your own hype up and now you're crashing and it's your own fault. Definitely fight for a change, but this amount of disappointment could have been negated. You were not "lied to", I've seen that thrown around a lot and it's ridiculous.
    I always tell people, its never good to ride that hype train, because when it crashes you get screwed. I am all for getting excited about new content, but I keep my expectations in check as I do. That way when something is different then I thought it would be (like Dancer being a DPS) then I dont get upset.
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    I'm disappointed by the gender lock but not overly surprised given how accurate the leaks were.

    I hope that the people that were interested in female Viera and male Hrothgar are happy with the designs and I hope that SE considers adding male Viera and female Hrothgar in the future.
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    I want to know what the only fanbase that matter to SE is saying about this, Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zied View Post
    I want to know what the only fanbase that matter to SE is saying about this, Japan.
    They dont care about all this gender politic BS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    They dont care about all this gender politic BS
    I don't care about gender politics, I love me some Trump but I just want to play a non furry male race
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zied View Post
    I don't care about gender politics, I love me some Trump but I just want to play a non furry male race
    not sure what Trump has anything to do with this.....but you have none furry male choice already, in fact you have 4
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    Mexi Lostbane
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    I'm saddened by this whole gender thing. I was disappointed at the release of the Viera, especially the racial gear.

    What I feel, as a female player, is that it's very hard for me to play something which isn't aimed at the male gaze. I would love a shot at playing a female Hrothgar and I want all the guys who were interested in the male Viera to have their shot too. The whole thing about new Final Fantasy games is that each time, the devs get the choice to reinvent aspects of the game. There is no lore for Viera in FFXIV except that which the FFXIV devs create. So many other aspects of the series change regularly, I don't see why this is any different.

    Characters and their design are huge and people want to play different races, body types and genders to represent them in the game. Or even no gender. This feels like a backward step to me and I think represents a very dated view on who is playing your game. Give your players the freedom to express themselves.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    Then by that logic we should have female Hrothgar. There were female Ronso present in both X and X-2. But we don't.
    I can't Speak for YoshiP, but Im guessing that we get Male Ronso just to counterbalance the Viera so they arnt the only 1 gendered race.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    Let's not forget that the XIV Ivalice has:
    • Changed certain character's motivations and personalities
    • Changed the story of certain characters
    • Changed character genders and relations (Ba'gamnan's sister being turned into a male, Rasler and Ashe being siblings)
    • Completely changed the order of the timeline
    • Changed the geography of Ivalice and locations of certain areas.

    But yeah male bunnies would completely ruin the Ivalice lore.
    I get it, you want Male Bunnies that Badly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Miqo'te have been around since FFXI, long before FF12. Their lore was exactly the same: men are ultra rare spawns and have to stay home to take care of the kids.
    Roegadyn (Galka) were originally asexual. when they got old, they went back to the ancestral lands and their bodies molted into egg-like chrysalis. They would then be reborn as young children with all the knowledge of their past lives.

    All of that was changed in FF14 2.0. Lore is no excuse.
    What does the Miqo'te and Roe have to do with Viera Lore?
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