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    Raiu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    You mean like Mi'qote are suppsoed to be rare also. Sorry, but this is a lame excuse, explain this also to Au'ra which were new and from another land and suddenly we had them as starter race aswell, explain that lore wise also, stop defending them for such lame excuses.
    As said, it was a decision they did in the past to get FFXIV off the ground.

    Now that the game is popular, they are most likely wanting to go back how they see their world, and want to go back to gender locking Viera because it makes sense.

    Au Ra is not remotely close to a gender lock situation, and their idea is being a rare sight, just like miqo'te male. They exist, and it might be something SE regrets.

    However, just because the vase has cracks in it here and there, it does not mean you need to take a hammer and make more cracks into it.

    Gender locked Viera is most likely SE's attempt at making the Viera race believable, following the source material from the other game it comes from -- that being, males are almost non-existent and mythical, but they do exist, and they want to adhere to that in their game world, by not giving people the option to create a Viera male, and destroy that illusion and myth.

    They might take even more liberties like this in the future, who knows.
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    Now that the anger of being led on and before anyone says anything at Paris Yoshi could've said that male Viera was not going to be playable by deliberately dodging questions he led people on this is where my anger is, has finally started going away i'm just so disappointed a single male Viera coming out he forest is no less lore breaking than a Hrothgar entering Ul'Dah or Gridania without being detained/attacked/interrogated. The lore excuse is hiding the real reason and it saddens me that they are hiding behind this mask, they will not get anything out of me besides the expansion an monthly sub and depending how the gameplay features of 5.0 will determine if i stay playing.

    I am hugely against gender locks of this kind and seeing ffxiv a game i have spent 6+ with go this route has upset me and made me more fearful of its future as now i am worried they will add a gender locked jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Now that the anger of being led on and before anyone says anything at Paris Yoshi could've said that male Viera was not going to be playable by deliberately dodging questions he led people on this is where my anger is, has finally started going away i'm just so disappointed a single male Viera coming out he forest is no less lore breaking than a Hrothgar entering Ul'Dah or Gridania without being detained/attacked/interrogated. The lore excuse is hiding the real reason and it saddens me that they are hiding behind this mask, they will not get anything out of me besides the expansion an monthly sub and depending how the gameplay features of 5.0 will determine if i stay playing.

    I am hugely against gender locks of this kind and seeing ffxiv a game i have spent 6+ with go this route has upset me and made me more fearful of its future as now i am worried they will add a gender locked jobs
    your worry is unfounded honestly. The game will be fine, the world is not ending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiu View Post
    People claiming it to be sexist truly only lives in the moment and does not look into every other non-sexist stuff the game has.

    Putting out 2 unique races with a gender lock each in the midst of 6 other playable non-gender locked races is not sexism.

    I can understand the disappointment, however, of wanting male viera or female hrothgar, but calling it sexism is dumb.

    I, for one, can appreciate SE going down the route to establish how rare Viera males are in their game world and lore to the point they don't want player interference to change that. They did once, and they have taken a turn on it again.
    What? It is sexist when the girls look like playboy bunnies, yet we aren't allowed to have males to that regard. The same can be said toward the Hrothgar, as it's fairly sexist to only give the men their powerful beastly race and not the girls. These genders exist in the lore for these races as they should exist in the character creator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenMittens View Post
    What? It is sexist when the girls look like playboy bunnies, yet we aren't allowed to have males to that regard. The same can be said toward the Hrothgar, as it's fairly sexist to only give the men their powerful beastly race and not the girls. These genders exist in the lore for these races as they should exist in the character creator.
    learn what lore and story building are, then come back, you cant just do what you want when crafting these things, not when you are using preexisting worlds/characters/settings -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    learn what lore and story building are, then come back, you cant just do what you want when crafting these things, not when you are using preexisting worlds/characters/settings -.-
    I know what lore and story building is, and this game doesn't always follow that. Come back to this thread once you've looked up the lore surrounding that Dragoon you have at 70 if you want to throw that rebuttal at me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenMittens View Post
    I know what lore and story building is, and this game doesn't always follow that. Come back to this thread once you've looked up the lore surrounding that Dragoon you have at 70 if you want to throw that rebuttal at me.
    oh you mean the lore for DRG, of which you the player character are the only one of other then the NPC? I know lore, Viera lore does not even allow for ONE to leave the wood, it just does not happen, they are so rare its not even funny, rarer then male Miqo'te
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    learn what lore and story building are, then come back, you cant just do what you want when crafting these things, not when you are using preexisting worlds/characters/settings -.-
    I understand where you're coming from but lore and story building really don't mean that much when I can summon Jibanyan as a minion and then fly off on my Regalia while queuing for the Nier raid. Obviously the devs are not super concrete about the lore of XIV and what it means. This was just a bad decision made under the guise of an otherwise unrelated concept to make it not seem as bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decoratibo View Post
    I understand where you're coming from but lore and story building really don't mean that much when I can summon Jibanyan as a minion and then fly off on my Regalia while queuing for the Nier raid. Obviously the devs are not super concrete about the lore of XIV and what it means. This was just a bad decision made under the guise of an otherwise unrelated concept to make it not seem as bad.
    Just because a vase has cracks in it, it does not mean you need to pick up the hammer and create more cracks, or downright break the vase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by decoratibo View Post
    I understand where you're coming from but lore and story building really don't mean that much when I can summon Jibanyan as a minion and then fly off on my Regalia while queuing for the Nier raid. Obviously the devs are not super concrete about the lore of XIV and what it means. This was just a bad decision made under the guise of an otherwise unrelated concept to make it not seem as bad.
    all minions are little magic dolls or mechanical toys, and Regalia can easily be done with magitech ( still find the car and most mounts stupid to begin with)
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