Gender locked race?

[Iscah]

Dude. Plz Omega M is Hot.
and his physical body structure and face style is not available in game.

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Elezen dont look anything like that and have awkward bodies.. stop pushing that.

Funny you say that, because I took one look at that screenshot and thought oh, I definitely recognise those body proportions...



Omega is a bit slimmer in the torso, but that can be down to individual costume pieces. Other than that, he's pretty clearly built from an Elezen base model - and I don't think the face is that different from what's possible with Elezen settings, either.

Really. Play around with Duskwight face #2 (maybe also #1) and see if you can find something you like.

If you want Omega specifically, you can get that skin colour, and from memory there's a hairstyle that's basically a tamer version of his.

[artyport]

Funny you say that, because I took one look at that screenshot and thought oh, I definitely recognise those body proportions...



Omega is a bit slimmer in the torso, but that can be down to individual costume pieces. Other than that, he's pretty clearly built from an Elezen base model - and I don't think the face is that different from what's possible with Elezen settings, either.

Really. Play around with Duskwight face #2 (maybe also #1) and see if you can find something you like.

If you want Omega specifically, you can get that skin colour, and from memory there's a hairstyle that's basically a tamer version of his.

Honey I have played with elezen..
and its not gonna work..
Honestly they just need to be fixed and ill drop all this.

[Iscah]

Honey I have played with elezen..
and its not gonna work..
Honestly they just need to be fixed and ill drop all this.

They're not going to get "fixed", because that'll affect the people who are already playing as those characters and happy with them - and an awful lot of important NPCs that rely on the same data.

And I still think it's worth another play around with the face settings. I'd actually made this comparison of a few characters and their data a while back - if you maybe start with the settings for Artoirel and play around from there?

Surely it's worth a shot if the alternative is not being happy with any of the designs.

[Lauront]

Elezen dont look anything like that and have awkward bodies.. stop pushing that.
Miqo can be cute- but its a stretch for them to look more on the beautiful side.
I have given you highlander.
So while I MAY have some options to create my aesthetic there is not a race that is designed around it.

THERE IS 3 Races designed to appeal to macho and handsome men. 4 even because i've seen some butch midllanders... 5 even because you can make masculine miqo.

In terms of the actual body type, Elezen do fit that. You may find them awkward, but it doesn't change that they have a slender body type. Also, they're awkward in comparison to a custom-made NPC that flies around in the air for most of the time. I would say SE should focus on rectifying the awkwardness in their poses/proportions. They're already planning to review their Sprint animation.

With respect to that last statement, in terms of body types, there are certainly 3 races which fit the bill. I won't deny that you can make both midlanders and catmen look macho, but the point is rather that they can be designed in the opposite direction, too.

Also, to put into perspective what most consider to be well built in terms of Viera, it would be this:



So, somewhere between au ra and elezen. It's not exactly the Hulk.

[Alesone]

Lol, hilarity of very subjective opinions the game has really only 2 really masculine male options, roegadyn and highlanders. Au Ra come close, but those child bearing hips are not a masculine trait in my opinion.

I'll be honest and say I don't think SE would ever actually release a purely effeminate male race, it's just super unlikely to happen because while it would have its fans, it'd also mean releasing a race pair that would only be effeminate (one female option, one effeminate male option). A masculine female race would alsp equally never happen as female roe is as close as it got and they are criminally underplayed. I just don't see them ever doing it. Not when the game is filled with gender locked outfits, hairstyles, and even emotes.

[Lacan]

I'd be very happy if we got the concept art male viera, personally. They don't look cutesy or effeminate to me at all. I don't get why anyone would think they're weird. The average miqote looks more effeminate than those male viera do.

[Lauront]

I'd be very happy if we got the concept art male viera, personally. They don't look cutesy or effeminate to me at all. I don't get why anyone would think they're weird. The average miqote looks more effeminate than those male viera do.

Well, bear in mind they were the proposed solution to "cute" bunny men. So it's no surprise that they don't look that way. They were designed not to.

[xbahax92]

Im all in for Hrothgar being bulky/macho. But I still wouldn't play them, as I never touched Roe or Highlanders. I respect people's wishes, hence I said it would be best case scenario to release 2 "final" races to cover actually this demand.

I just would like to see handsome, young male Viera and not another race that is "tall" and 3 of 4 faces being angry/pissed/old-dude-looking. That is my preference and no matter how we turn the table, we all have our differences in this matter. I just would like to remind people not to smash others wishes/tastes.

Why should they agree with you when you are not respecting them?

edit:

and omg that neck is reaching heaven?!

[Iscah]

and omg that neck is reaching heaven?!

;_;

There's a reason most of his outfits involve high-collared shirts....


(but fortunately the game is very eager to give him lots of them.)

[Lauront]

Im all in for Hrothgar being bulky/macho. But I still wouldn't play them, as I never touched Roe or Highlanders. I respect people's wishes, hence I said it would be best case scenario to release 2 "final" races to cover actually this demand.

I just would like to see handsome, young male Viera and not another race that is "tall" and 3 of 4 faces being angry/pissed/old-dude-looking.

It'd be ideal for them to release 2 races, however Hrothgar remain an enigma and there's an awful lot of body types which either race could fit.

I would not be disappointed if they enabled Hrothgar to feature faces like Byakko's, maybe with a body type similar to an au ra's or highlander's. I don't believe they will make them too similar to roegadyn, both because of that race's % of characters played but also because they'd probably want to distinguish it physically.

For Viera, I do like the official concept art they have put forward, but something like this would work (albeit I think it's consistent with the concept art):



They do need to eventually re-visit the older races and broaden the customisation options, since some of the issues appear to arise due to limited customisation options for them, or design flaws, like the awkwardness in elezen models.