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    If they add male Veira cool good to hear but if they don't I probably won't be surprised I'm sure it'll either be that or they'll add different race that's male-only to go with the female only Veira OR it's just the female Viera when nothing else maybe unlikely but possible.
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    I think male Viera should be made to look more like hares, as they are less cute and look more muscly than rabbits. Males should have longer limbs, more muscle definition and slightly longer skinnier tails. The light and dark markings around a hare's eyes could look interesting on male Viera characters.

    If yoshida feels weird about bunny boys, tell him they're Hare Hyurs! Hares are also much more solitary and the males I have seen boxing look pretty fierce.

    (Also I want to make hare puns and jokes. Like "Hare I am! Geddit? Coz I'm a Viera? ")
    (What do you call Viera players that like to make their characters look good? A Hare-Stylist.)
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 03-09-2019 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I think male Viera should be made to look more like hares, as they are less cute and look more muscly that rabbits. Males should have longer limbs, more muscle definition and slightly longer skinnier tails. The light and dark markings around a hare's eyes could look interesting on male Viera characters.

    If yoshida feels weird about bunny boys, tell him they're Hare Hyurs! Hares are also much more solitary and the males I have seen boxing look pretty fierce.

    (Also I want to make hare puns and jokes. Like "Hare I am! Geddit? Coz I'm a Viera? ")
    (What do you call Viera players that like to make their characters look good? A Hare-Stylist.)
    Funnily enough one of the performers stated that the empire sent in platoons into the woods to round up the 'hares' and they ended up getting slaughtered; those that returned were with Viera who came at their own freewill. I've never heard of the females being called 'Hares' - so heck, perhaps 'Hares' is a derogatory term or something; or perhaps the males are seen as 'Hares'
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    The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.
    Well, I think Alphinaud is only tiny because he hasn't hit his elezen growth spurt yet. Eventually he's going to jump up to Haurchefant size. I get what you mean though. There is no option for really slender, feminine men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    If Dancer is confirmed as the next healer, despite being a male roe of all things, I will still level it, but I can almost guarantee it will be blatantly feminine.
    The AF would probably be designed more towards female aesthetics. But at least we could glamour over it. Now the job animations on the other hand... there's nothing we can do about them. I'm hoping at least there are some animations similar to ffxi dancer, which are quite neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.
    I don't think Alphinaud is feminine tho. Even if you're talking strictly about appearance and not mannerism.
    But if we do get male viera, then yeah it'd be nice to have two subraces where they differ in physical characteristics (one is short and slender). Honestly this could be a way for SE to make something different (subraces even more varied than between the hyurs) and increasing the hype for the expansion.
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    Last edited by Fland; 03-10-2019 at 12:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    The game really needs an option to make slender feminine males like alphinaud. There's already multiple options for people who want to play as a bara or bishie type character. So hopefully the "young elezen" viera variant the artist talked about will fill that niche.
    Alphinaud isn't...feminine, he's just young, he's a young boy as yoshida has explained.

    And also as Yoshida has explained in the past with the child miqo'te models there are certain problems that come with adding in child-like races like that, the lalafell are an exception because they're dwarfish and their anatomy is much much more exaggerated compared to something like the harvin from GB.

    That being said I understand the desire for an 'elegant' looking male race with a more feminine aesthetic, I'd rather like if male viera were tall and elegant, or if the theory about the subraces being unique gave hrothgar a similar tall elegant looking subrace.
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    The only race I think is close to Bara is Roe and maybe Hyur, But the Elezen and Au ra are super skinny so is the Miqot'e they are just short and skinny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark123 View Post
    The only race I think is close to Bara is Roe and maybe Hyur, But the Elezen and Au ra are super skinny so is the Miqot'e they are just short and skinny.
    To be honest, we should just stop comparing Viera and/or Hrothgar to any existing races. Its nonsense to compare their height/body type and call them "They are just Miqo with bun ears! Or Hyur/Elezen/Roe body's with bun ears attached!".
    In the end, we're talking about a humanoid race, which exists even before FF14 (they appear just less racial thanks to our great graphic engine&limitations). It doesnt matter if they look bulky, young, athletic, or whatever.

    I can only speak for myself, and I really do hope Hrothgar will be your bara race. At least then we can demand for male Viera that look more agile, slender and dextrous looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark123 View Post
    The only race I think is close to Bara is Roe and maybe Hyur, But the Elezen and Au ra are super skinny so is the Miqot'e they are just short and skinny.
    People keep saying that, but male au ra have bigger built limbs than male highlanders. Even if the waist is a bit slender, they're far from "skinny". Elezen are lean and muscled, but yes, they do have a slender countenance by comparison. Miqo'te and midlanders are on the stockier end. Roegadyn are on an extreme of their own.

    That said, whilst au ra and highlander men are muscular and to an extent bulky, there's a big gap between them and roegadyn, so there's space in that area for a race like Hrothgar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Can't say I'm in agreement with the desire to look like a child. Maybe if they were a subrace - but I'm certainly going to wrinkle my nose at the idea of the males looking so drastically different and stuck in some sort of juvenile state that people will sexualise. Seeing as Yoshida is clearly against the idea of them being 'Cute' you can sadly kiss the whole 'looks like a child' idea out of the window.

    If he's already uncomfortable with the idea of men just being 'rabbits' in the first place, then I can assure you that child bunny man is even more 'far out'. Honestly would disturb the heck out of me seeing them wearing 'sexy clothes'. No thanks. Shota is gross.
    It's not just that. I don't really care too much if they add some skinny race. However, the way they've gone with Viera males, and their prior objections to considering their addition, make them particularly ill suited to being this "skinny" race. Unless they added two drastically dimorphous subraces, it's not going to happen. I take the 2015 concept art to be what the devs would be comfortable adding. If they add a dimorphous subrace, whatever, but if the only playable Viera males were to be some example of reverse dimorphism, I would not be particularly impressed, in the slightest. Thankfully, I doubt the devs are even thinking of pursuing such an avenue at all and seem to be the ones most opposed to it. I also agree on shota. Whilst Alphinaud is a teenager, he looks more like one in his early than mid/later teens. Could be down to how elezen age compared to hyur.


    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I think there's like a 90% chance that we won't see male Viera in two weeks. All this slender, feminine version of male Viera? Probably 99% chance we won't see it in my mind.
    That or the devs will simply design them as they see fit, considering that the forum tends to be a minority of players more than anything else, and they're well aware of that.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 03-10-2019 at 10:34 AM.
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