Oh, that is a very handsome hyur.I'm actually in the same boat with Midlander - it's the only one I can make 'attractive', the rest I have difficulties finding what I find to be 'cute'. Can't look this handsome on another race - to me anyway. I'm hoping for a change. I would like more pretty/handsome boys. If Hrothgar gives me that, then I'll get over some parts of my prejudice against them - but it's certainly not enough for me to be all for 'genderlocking' them.
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I just hope whatever we get has good facial hair options.

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Last edited by Kupocoubo; 02-27-2019 at 06:49 AM.

I'm glad in this game you're not told how to interact with the world just because of you're visual preferences. Like how I love the Raen look but I'm not super into Asian culture. I also don't like the racism that comes from games like GW2 and WoW. Do you celebrate the fact that male Viera and(probably) female Hrothgar aren't playable because of lore and their culture?





Cultural differentiation is not 'racism'. You're not forced to do anything - it's more how the game world reacts to you as a member of a given race, which is realistic.
See, that's the funny thing - despite having greater distinctiveness in its races, WoW never gender-locked races for such silly reasons. There is very little lore in FFXIV that directly lends itself to a gender-lock, particularly since none is applied with regard to male Keepers.Do you celebrate the fact that male Viera and(probably) female Hrothgar aren't playable because of lore and their culture?
When the game's story becomes self-aware:

The racism I'm talking about is the ingame slurs characters use against other races. A Charr would say "Why are we taking orders from rats and talking cabbages?" an Orc would say "These elves don't belong to the REAL Horde!" and so on.
Wow, you two like racism in your games when it affect people irl. I'll give up and just block.
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Please give the concern trolling a rest. I honestly grow rather tired of people who can't tell the difference between reality and fiction and try and turn everything into some moral crusade premised on their feigned outrage on behalf of others in regards to a word applied so broadly so as to have become useless semantically. Block away, though, I'm sure you'll have won some great victory in your mind over teh ebul waycists.The racism I'm talking about is the ingame slurs characters use against other races. A Charr would say "Why are we taking orders from rats and talking cabbages?" an Orc would say "These elves don't belong to the REAL Horde!" and so on.
Wow, you two like racism in your games when it affect people irl. I'll give up and just block.
Last edited by Lauront; 02-27-2019 at 07:10 AM.
When the game's story becomes self-aware:
I don't have an issue with such things. It isn't real and adds depth to the setting. Many stories would be terribly boring if they embraced black and white morality. Furthermore, in some cases there are very good reasons for bad blood to exist between different fantasy races. As Shougun stated, FFXIV does not shy away from exploring such themes either.
That wasn't at all what I said, though feel free to do just that. You're clearly struggling to grasp nuances and are seemingly oblivious to the sort of themes that FFXIV frequently explores. Fictional settings do not need to reaffirm your every real world belief to be interesting and successful. To imply otherwise is the equivalent of modern day book burning in regards to eroding away depth and creativity. It's perfectly possible to find racism abhorrent in the real world but find it interesting in the context of a fictional setting if it brings solid storytelling to the table. Flawed characters are fascinating.
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Lmao, this is off topic. But I actually did enjoy the prejudice of being an Elf Mage in Dragonage, which was riddled with racism and the likes, I got extra dialogue just for being a different race as well as a mage. It adds reality, depth, grittiness and of course, you feel triumph when you overcome it. Not sure what the big deal is here, as someone of colour who has faced racism as part as growing up - really not seeing your point guy.The racism I'm talking about is the ingame slurs characters use against other races. A Charr would say "Why are we taking orders from rats and talking cabbages?" an Orc would say "These elves don't belong to the REAL Horde!" and so on.
Wow, you two like racism in your games when it affect people irl. I'll give up and just block.
As an add on, I enjoyed being an alien/slave in SWTOR during certain quests while being part of the Empire, just for the satisfaction of slapping 'prejudice sith' and wiping the floor with them. Or being a Dunmer in Skyrim. People, enjoy this... doesn't matter what colour. It's not racist to enjoy the drama and to feel that satisfaction of besting it.
I hope we get more of this drama as time goes on and we inch closer to the Empire.
Best to step off the white knight path on this one.
Last edited by Gwenorai; 02-27-2019 at 07:18 AM.





What do you mean by racism? Because there is racism in FFXIV in terms of FFXIV races, and if you mean real life racism then I'm jumping ship on that conversation lol. I actually like in game racism as a counter point, but I do respect that you want to have a high level of freedom to interact with the world (not told how to exist). To me it's more fun to watch races make off handed comments or direct ones to others, and not necessarily straight to me.I'm glad in this game you're not told how to interact with the world just because of you're visual preferences. Like how I love the Raen look but I'm not super into Asian culture. I also don't like the racism that comes from games like GW2 and WoW. Do you celebrate the fact that male Viera and(probably) female Hrothgar aren't playable because of lore and their culture?
Anyway, FFXIV has plenty of in game prejudice :3
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