Gender locked race?

[artyport]

The Warrior of Light has also been shown to be sporting a unique stubble option in recent promotional in-game footage. More facial hair has indeed been a common request for quite some time so it is my hope that they're saving an announcement for an expansion of customisation options for the upcoming Fan Fest. It'd help mitigate any bad blood that arises from the new race(s).

yeah that too.
I'm pretty sure we area going to get some customization updates.
to really bring attention to it add 2 more races and everyone is purchasing this expansion day 1

[DamianFatale]

I do find it a bit funny that people think a new race has to be teased beforehand, and couldn't possibly be something they want to keep a secret so that it's more of a surprise. Or even just keep it more of a secret to prevent people on stewing too much for too long on potential issues or wild speculation. The vast majority of content in new expansions is stuff we'd never seen or heard about before, almost every single new beast tribe is something that was never hinted. We didn't know about the Gnath, the Vanu Vanu, the Kojin, the Ananta, the Namazu, the Lupin, the Pixies, the Nu Mou, the Dwarves etc. etc. before they were introduced in the expansions, and almost all of them were treated as just being par the course, normal fully integrated into the settings they're from.

A player race is little different in this regard, we'll be traveling to places and will likely encounter them out somewhere where we're going. The setting will treat them like they've always been there like it does for everything else, it's only a slightly jarring situation for the players. New player races don't have to be proceeded with in game hints, and even then, both of the ones we've gotten before have set a pretty low standard of what it takes to set up before hand that it's really not at all a big deal if there's no hint or build up in game to Hrothgar coming.

Lupin are NOT a beast tribe. They are a regular race that sadly did not get chosen to be playable.

[cicatriz313]

Lupin are NOT a beast tribe. They are a regular race that sadly did not get chosen to be playable.

Lupin would be pretty cool, but if Hrothgar are lion based it might look somewhat like a Lupin. Maybe.

[Melichoir]

I do find it a bit funny that people think a new race has to be teased beforehand, and couldn't possibly be something they want to keep a secret so that it's more of a surprise. Or even just keep it more of a secret to prevent people on stewing too much for too long on potential issues or wild speculation. The vast majority of content in new expansions is stuff we'd never seen or heard about before, almost every single new beast tribe is something that was never hinted. We didn't know about the Gnath, the Vanu Vanu, the Kojin, the Ananta, the Namazu, the Lupin, the Pixies, the Nu Mou, the Dwarves etc. etc. before they were introduced in the expansions, and almost all of them were treated as just being par the course, normal fully integrated into the settings they're from.

A player race is little different in this regard, we'll be traveling to places and will likely encounter them out somewhere where we're going. The setting will treat them like they've always been there like it does for everything else, it's only a slightly jarring situation for the players. New player races don't have to be proceeded with in game hints, and even then, both of the ones we've gotten before have set a pretty low standard of what it takes to set up before hand that it's really not at all a big deal if there's no hint or build up in game to Hrothgar coming.

Find it funny I guess but theres quite a few people who have explained why keeping it 100% hush hush probably isnt the wisest idea or likeliest of ideas. Also, not sure why youre trying to compare player races to NPCs, you know, since player races more readily affect how people spend their money in regards to things like Phantasia, or Glamours, or If they want to resub, or even join the game for the first time. You know that people tend to be very very very interested in things that affect them directly - Classes, Races, Balance, etc. Not knowing what Beast tribe is gonna be around is a lot less important to players interest by comparison.

Lupin would be pretty cool, but if Hrothgar are lion based it might look somewhat like a Lupin. Maybe.

Admittedly, Lupin wouldve been a cool player race...

[Shippuu]

Find it funny I guess but theres quite a few people who have explained why keeping it 100% hush hush probably isnt the wisest idea or likeliest of ideas. Also, not sure why youre trying to compare player races to NPCs, you know, since player races more readily affect how people spend their money in regards to things like Phantasia, or Glamours, or If they want to resub, or even join the game for the first time.

I mean, considering them keeping it hush hush is pretty much exactly what they seem to be doing it's certainly one of the more likeliest ideas. If you want to keep something a surprise until it's announced, keeping people in the dark is exactly how you do it. Revealing it 3 months before the expansion launches is also more than enough time to use it to market to current players and potential players.

You know that people tend to be very very very interested in things that affect them directly - Classes, Races, Balance, etc. Not knowing what Beast tribe is gonna be around is a lot less important to players interest by comparison.

It's super interesting you list Classes and Balance in there, considering they're doing the exact same thing with classes that they'd do for Hrothgar currently There was no build up in game to Gunbreaker, nor has there even been any t-shirt hints or anything at to what the next class coming in March is. And Balance? We won't get any information on that until May, just a month before release like we have with every other expansion so far. So, you basically defeated your own argument.

[Karl0217]

It's super interesting you list Classes and Balance in there, considering they're doing the exact same thing with classes that they'd do for Hrothgar currently There was no build up in game to Gunbreaker, nor has there even been any t-shirt hints or anything at to what the next class coming in March is. And Balance? We won't get any information on that until May, just a month before release like we have with every other expansion so far. So, you basically defeated your own argument.

Oh please, there were hints that a gunblade tank was coming. Specifically we had a gunblade-wielder tank a duty for us in the Burn in Patch 4.3 some 8-9 months ago and when that happened a bunch of people immediately figured out that was a hint at a gunblade tank class was going to be introduced. Much like how Yugiri and Thancred's fight with the Sahagin showcased Rouge/Ninja in patch 2.2 prior to its introduction in 2.4. Or how Alisaie showcased the Red Mage in her fight with the Warriors of Darkness in 4.4. Or Gotetsu showcased the Samurai in patch 4.5.....

[cicatriz313]

I mean. Gaius has been in the game since 2.0. And his gunblade is garlean which is obvs different from what thancred is using. And that still doesn't give us anything about dancer. I agree with the overall premise that having no info on Hrothgar is not indicative of them not coming, as it could still be a surprise.

[Karl0217]

I mean. Gaius has been in the game since 2.0. And his gunblade is garlean which is obvs different from what thancred is using. And that still doesn't give us anything about dancer. I agree with the overall premise that having no info on Hrothgar is not indicative of them not coming, as it could still be a surprise.

Gaius has actually been in the game since 1.0. Not that it actually makes much difference to the point that he was showcasing a gunblade tank job in 4.3. After all, Alisaie has been in the game since 2.0 and her weapon is different model from the one X'Rhun Tia, the Red Mage trainer, uses. Neither of which made changes the fact she showcased Red Mage in the fight with the Warriors of Darkness.

[Shippuu]

Oh please, there were hints that a gunblade tank was coming. Specifically we had a gunblade-wielder tank a duty for us in the Burn in Patch 4.3 some 8-9 months ago and when that happened a bunch of people immediately figured out that was a hint at a gunblade tank class was going to be introduced. Much like how Yugiri and Thancred's fight with the Sahagin showcased Rouge/Ninja in patch 2.2 prior to its introduction in 2.4. Or how Alisaie showcased the Red Mage in her fight with the Warriors of Darkness in 4.4. Or Gotetsu showcased the Samurai in patch 4.5.....

Gaius in that RP duty being a hint is a pretty big stretch. He showed up using animations and move's he used back in 2.0, the same animations and moves that Regula, Nero, and Fordola have also used. He's no more a hint than he was back in 2.0. We've seen all of those moves and animations for years now. Especially seeing how Gunbreaker clearly isn't based off of Garlean gunblades and has what seems to be little to do with them outside of both their weapons being called gunblades. So if that was the hint, he's been a hint since 2.0

But hey, if we want to do reaches for hints, we know we are likely to venture into Ilsabard at some point in our journeys, an area we know little about but it's where Garlemalde is so we will likely inevitably go there. We know the northern parts of Ilsabard are harsh lands with brutal winters and Hrothgar is an Anglo-Saxon name and so would likely be fitting to have a similar culture in parts of Ilsabard backed up by the lore. And we know Hrothgar were described as having "majestic manes".

Hmm, let's take a look at the map:


Wow...that mysterious figure sure does look like he has one very long and majestic mane...couldn't possibly be a hint.

[Karl0217]

Gaius in that RP duty being a hint is a pretty big stretch.

I would argue that it takes some real special logic to say the presence of a gunblade tank in duty with us some eight months prior to a gunblade tank class's official unveiling wasn't a hint as to the class's existence.

He showed up using animations and move's he used back in 2.0, the same animations and moves that Regula, Nero, and Fordola have also used. He's no more a hint than he was back in 2.0. We've seen all of those moves and animations for years now. Especially seeing how Gunbreaker clearly isn't based off of Garlean gunblades and has what seems to be little to do with them outside of both their weapons being called gunblades. So if that was the hint, he's been a hint since 2.0

Interesting critique coming from a guy who bases half his entire argument against the inclusion of male Viera on interview made in the 2.0 era six years ago. After all, if you think that Yoshida can tease his long term plans for the Viera six years ago you should have no problem thinking he can also tease a class he wants to include for that long also.

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Oh wait a minute, that reminds me. Weren't you the one arguing that Yoshida teased his long-term plans for BLU years before it was implemented in some previous posts?