Gender locked race?

[Crushnight]

But the lore does exist and was a hefty portion of what we were told about the race onboard the airship. They could've just as easily spewed something about them needing males from other races to mate instead of explain that there are, in fact, male Viera out there, and go on about their habits and customs.
Honestly, we're at the point where there's enough pointing either way. It's Schrudinger's Male Viera - Viera are both genderlocked and not genderlocked until Yoshi-P opens the box at fanfest

This reminded me of this:


Now to wait 5 weeks instead of a few seconds to find out what is inside >_<

[Nestama]

But the lore does exist and was a hefty portion of what we were told about the race onboard the airship. They could've just as easily spewed something about them needing males from other races to mate instead of explain that there are, in fact, male Viera out there, and go on about their habits and customs.
Honestly, we're at the point where there's enough pointing either way. It's Schrudinger's Male Viera - Viera are both genderlocked and not genderlocked until Yoshi-P opens the box at fanfest

What I meant is that FFXIV is the only game to go in depth with male Viera's, even giving them a reason for why we probably never saw them in the games Viera are from. I don't recall them being mentioned in FFXII, FFTA and FFTA2. Never played FFXII:RW.
All we really knew about them prior to XIV is: they exist.

[Gwenorai]

I mean, Viera are technically a female only race in the Final Fantasy franchise. We've never seen the males in the games they're from and FFXIV is the first game to even give them lore. If anything, it'd be more like: "The Viera - Males included" if males were to be playable.

Aye, that I get. I was more on the lines of - would that actually stand to scrutiny in regards to advertisement laws. Not that I plan to do anything, of course, was just one of those pesky stray thoughts. Looking at both Steam and the ShadowBringers official page, it simply states 'Viera' - so my mind was all 'can they do that and not state the genderlock?' Especially for a new player who doesn't know the history of Viera.

[BillyKaplan]

Looking at both Steam and the ShadowBringers official page, it simply states 'Viera' - so my mind was all 'can they do that and not state the genderlock?' Especially for a new player who doesn't know the history of Viera.

They advertised BLU as just a "job" on the lodestone and left a couple of people very confused when they hit 50, so sadly I wouldn't put it beyond them. With BLU, however, they at least had other sources explaining the restrictions and limitations, including, again, the very fanfest BLU was introduced at. We have nothing of that sort for Viera.

[Emmanellain]

I'm pretty sure they will introduce the male Viera during the JP fanfest. Yoshi implied it.

[Iscah]

I'm pretty sure they will introduce the male Viera during the JP fanfest. Yoshi implied it.

He didn't imply it. He implied they'd be revealing something.

It could be male Viera, but it equally could be Hrothgar or something completely out of left field.

People just tend to hear what they want to hear, and then relay that version instead of the actual statement.

[Emmanellain]

He didn't imply it. He implied they'd be revealing something.

It could be male Viera, but it equally could be Hrothgar or something completely out of left field.

People just tend to hear what they want to hear, and then relay that version instead of the actual statement.

Eh regardless I will welcome it? But mentioning the next fanfest and that there is yet something to be revealed after a question about male Viera does sort of imply that regardless of the reveal, we will get our answer there.
I don't understand why people are so aggressive about this? I'll happily hop around as a bunny boy if they turn out to be a thing, if not oh well?

[BillyKaplan]

I don't understand why people are so aggressive about this? I'll happily hop around as a bunny boy if they turn out to be a thing, if not oh well?

Because to some people it matters more than it does to you, for various reasons. It's really that simple.

[Seraphor]

But the lore does exist and was a hefty portion of what we were told about the race onboard the airship. They could've just as easily spewed something about them needing males from other races to mate instead of explain that there are, in fact, male Viera out there, and go on about their habits and customs.
Honestly, we're at the point where there's enough pointing either way. It's Schrudinger's Male Viera - Viera are both genderlocked and not genderlocked until Yoshi-P opens the box at fanfest

Except that male Viera have existed in Ivalice lore for some time, and its the Ivalice creator, Matsuno, who was brought on board to write the plot for Return to Ivalice, and Yoshi P confirmed Matsuno wrote that Viera lore.

It's Matsuno's baby, to put it simply, it was left up to him.
So I wouldn't say thats a point in favour of us getting male Viera at all. It was Matsuno's creative decision to build on his existing Viera lore, which he's not likely to have changed to reflect the presence of male Viera in FFXIV.

That said, the line "they simply do not exist for us" is a strong indicator against it.

[BillyKaplan]

That said, the line "they simply do not exist for us" is a strong indicator against it.

Said a male Keeper, if the name is lore abiding.

But see that line in and of itself is like catch 22. They sure went and told us a lot about people who might as well 'not exist for us'. If they really didn't want to draw attention to male Viera, that is not how one goes about it.

I'm going to throw another example that seems to tie in with this. In-game Shinobi. They're supposed to be a secret society and one could be standing right next to you and you wouldn't even know. But once you become a ninja or get to a specific point in the game where they matter, they're suddenly everywhere. Because they decided to show them, and now they're important.