Gender locked race?

[DevilsDontFly]

But seekers of the sun are based on lions, it seems a bit odd to me to add a new race using the theme of a race already in game. I assume they will have a different build but seems odd to get two new races both very close theme wise to the most popular in game race.

To be fair Blufever was part of a translation team, so all the leaks we got were based off text, and text alone. There's no pictures, concept art, or any visual reference to the Hrothgar apart from mentions to their manes, which is why everybody is drawing the conclusion that manes = lions. And I think Blufever came to the same conclusion himself. But manes aren't exclusive to lions, and if we start thinking that everyone is just assuming lions because a trusted leaker assumed lions based of the word "mane" in text files, that opens room for something else entirely to be the playable race instead.

Example: If Viera didn't exist in the FF universe and were introduced first on XIV, nobody knew what they look like and text files pointed out long ears, everyone would draw the conclusion it's an elf race, or a variation of, even though long ears stands for bunny. Or could be fox, bat, etc.
The same idea can be applied to male Roegadyns, if the very first one to appear and be mentioned by NPCs in text files were a Hellsgard and their black spot on the nose. That draws imagination to jump to lion aesthetic... which they are not.

At the end of the day we are attributing mane as a lion features, when in reality there are many other possibilities that we are not considering because of a lion avatar picture, which could have been a misinterpretation of character features text.

[Roda]

At the end of the day we are attributing mane as a lion features, when in reality there are many other possibilities that we are not considering because of a lion avatar picture, which could have been a misinterpretation of character features text.

Plot twist, we're getting horse people.

[Roda]

What? Have you tried not living under a rock?

Gay subcultures ARE based off people’s body types. Twinks=skinny, bears=big and stocky, and otters=lanky and hairy. I described it that way on purpose to explain the rationale behind that other guys thinking.

I think for normalcy’s sake that Viera males don’t fall into either category too much, just something in the middle that doesn’t look too extreme.

I mean, from the concept art, male viera seem to fall right into that hairy and lanky category. What with all the chest hair SE kept putting on them.
(middle right edge)

But seekers of the sun are based on lions, it seems a bit odd to me to add a new race using the theme of a race already in game. I assume they will have a different build but seems odd to get two new races both very close theme wise to the most popular in game race.

I mean, the Viera are based on moon keeper gender roles so.... Seems like SE would just keep ripping off Miqo'te for new races since they did it with female Au Ra's basic silhouette...

[jameseoakes]

I mean, the Viera are based on moon keeper gender roles so.... Seems like SE would just keep ripping off Miqo'te for new races since they did it with female Au Ra's basic silhouette...

I'd go further than and say Viera are jsut more extreme Keepers of the Moon they have the exact same theme and don't really offer anything setting wise that keepers couldn't have done.

[Shougun]

I agree I'm all the Hrothgar females who are badasses. Especially if they're lions! In the animal kingdom, it's the ladies that do all the hard work. Fierce huntresses. But eh, the issue with this is that Miqo'te have the same thing going for them, and while you can still make a fierce-looking female miqo'te - most are just adorable and cute. Not amazonian fierce. The Viera was supposed to be that 'Amazonian Fierce' but they ended up being adorable.

H-H-HEY THE MEN HAVE TO WORK HARD TOO!

*Flails glorious hair about while watching the women hunt, feed, and generally care for the tribe*

I'd love to see some more Amazonian-like female in the game :3. If this race is not genderlocked and it's like how we're imagining- then that'll be pretty neat.

But seekers of the sun are based on lions, it seems a bit odd to me to add a new race using the theme of a race already in game. I assume they will have a different build but seems odd to get two new races both very close theme wise to the most popular in game race.

Besides as others have mentioned that it's technically possible that they're not purely cat based I'd also suggest miqote is a lion like a chihauha is a Tibetan Mastiff.. or in other words there is a lot of possible variation in that category. Miqote = house cat. Hrothgar could possibly = bic strong boy/girl jungle (mountain) cat.

[Roda]

H-H-HEY THE MEN HAVE TO WORK HARD TOO!

*flairs glorious hair about while watching the women hunt, feed, and generally care for the tribe*

I'd love to see some more Amazonian-like female in the game :3. If this race is not genderlocked and it's like how we're imagining- then that'll be pretty neat.



Besides as others have mentioned that it's technically possible that they're not purely cat based I'd also suggest miqote is a lion like a chihauha is a Tibetan Mastiff.. or in other words there is a lot of possible variation in that category. Miqote = house cat. Hrothgar could possibly = bic strong boy/girl cat.

They mean that the miqo'te seeker clan's culture is purely based off of lion prides, where the females do the hunting and the boys stay home and look pretty so they can be chosen to mate with (paraphrased of course). Having another lion themed race would be pretty redundant.
Also house cats are fairly deadly for the environments they're introduced to. (keep your kitties inside, folks)

[redcurrant18]

...what?

Have you tried, not generalising and being prejudiced?

What? Have you tried not living under a rock?

Gay subcultures ARE based off people’s body types. Twinks=skinny, bears=big and stocky, and otters=lanky and hairy. I described it that way on purpose to explain the rationale behind that other guys thinking.

I think for normalcy’s sake that Viera males don’t fall into either category too much, just something in the middle that doesn’t look too extreme.

[Seraphor]

What? Have you tried not living under a rock?

Gay subcultures ARE based off people’s body types. Twinks=skinny, bears=big and stocky, and otters=lanky and hairy. I described it that way on purpose to explain the rationale behind that other guys thinking.

I think for normalcy’s sake that Viera males don’t fall into either category too much, just something in the middle that doesn’t look too extreme.

Thinking of them as "subcultures" is exactly what perpetrates the stereotypes. They aren't subcultures, they're just body types.

How about people prefer different body types, regardless of their gender or sexuality, and we shouldn't criticise, deride or belittle them for their preferences by insinuating they only like what they like because of past trauma?

There is a fraction of gay culture who likes to obsess over these body types as if they were their own subcultures, but they are a minority, of a minority.

[WhiteArchmage]

How about people prefer different body types, regardless of their gender or sexuality, and we shouldn't criticise, deride or belittle them for their preferences by insinuating they only like what they like because of past trauma?

I mean, this whole mess started because someone went "EW, keep these femme twinks OFF MY GAME!" which more than present a preference, derides and belittles a portion of the community, why it's almost as if it were showing some... prejudice against it. There are ways to assert your preference without attacking others. And that's the last I'll say about the subject because this is not the thread for that.

ON TOPIC: So far we have two names and each of them gendered. It could mean we're getting both genders of both races or the code checks for gender first and race second. This is going to be one long month and a half.

[Daralii]

I mean, this whole mess started because someone went "EW, keep these femme twinks OFF MY GAME!" which more than present a preference, derides and belittles a portion of the community, why it's almost as if it were showing some... prejudice against it. There are ways to assert your preference without attacking others. And that's the last I'll say about the subject because this is not the thread for that.

ON TOPIC: So far we have two names and each of them gendered. It could mean we're getting both genders of both races or the code checks for gender first and race second. This is going to be one long month and a half.

We don't know if there are male and female database entries because both races will have both genders or if it's just for the sake of uniformity, even if those strings are never used. I'm gonna laugh really hard if Yoshida dances around all of it at Tokyo and we have to wait for the benchmark.

I think Yoko Taro is being a bad influence.