Gender locked race?

[Flatopia]

At this point, the fact is there are two races- one Viera and one Hrothgar. One way or another we have bunny girls and lion-people.
The real question is if the if/else statements in the code is just there as a uniformity thing or if it means we are getting both.

Personally, I believe it's the latter. Au Ra, (or in this case Ao Ra) use a singular method of identifying their gender because of French linguistic rules. This isn't a hard rule, and could easily have used the standard rules for male and female. They went the extra mile and showed that they will go against uniformity for comfortable reading. I feel as though if they are willing to do that, they would be okay with removing if/then statements for options that do not exist. This is also compounded with optimization's sake of making sure the game does as few processes as possible, although this is rather minor and wouldn't affect much so this is hardly an argument.

[Yasminou]

Personally, I believe it's the latter. Au Ra, (or in this case Ao Ra) use a singular method of identifying their gender because of French linguistic rules. This isn't a hard rule, and could easily have used the standard rules for male and female. They went the extra mile and showed that they will go against uniformity for comfortable reading. I feel as though if they are willing to do that, they would be okay with removing if/then statements for options that do not exist. This is also compounded with optimization's sake of making sure the game does as few processes as possible, although this is rather minor and wouldn't affect much so this is hardly an argument.

What do you mean it is not a hard rule? It is a hard rule. Only few words starting with a vowel forbid le/la to become l' in front of them. It would be the same as saying that in English, a becoming an in front of a vowel sound is not a hard rule (true vowel sound, not semi-vowel like in universe for instance).
What do you mean by comfortable reading?
Reading French? In which case, l'ao ra is the comfortable one, not le ao ra / la ao ra.
Or reading the conditional statements about race and gender? In which case, I don't see the point in testing the gender if the outcome is the same.

[Tabbs]

What do you mean it is not a hard rule? It is a hard rule. Only few words starting with a vowel forbid le/la to become l' in front of them. It would be the same as saying that in English, a becoming an in front of a vowel sound is not a hard rule (true vowel sound, not semi-vowel like in universe for instance).
What do you mean by comfortable reading?
Reading French? In which case, l'ao ra is the comfortable one, not le ao ra / la ao ra.
Or reading the conditional statements about race and gender? In which case, I don't see the point in testing the gender if the outcome is the same.

I think she's referring to the last thing you mentioned, about conditional statements. I don't know how French works with coding, so I can't comment, but it sounds like an interesting point.

[Riardon]

Seems like many on this thread assume that we choose the gender of our characters based on our sexual preferences.
I want to kindly remind you that there are people like me who choose to play the same gender as IRL just because it represents us better in the story.
I can't feel empathy for a character that's not close to me.
So please stop derailing the thread with useless discussions on what you like in your private rooms.
I want male Viera because it will feel right. Not to mention the oversexualised female Viera while pleasant to the eye they also make the game feel kinda Korean cheap.
Having a female only race while you know there are males but you can't see them because of silly lore shenanigans is just a lazy approach.
If they wanted to make a female only race they should've reworked the lore and state there are no males whatsoever and that this race reproduces asexually.

[Nestama]

What SE really should have done is not copy-paste FFXII's Viera lore :^)
They could have made the Viera something similar, but more... rabbit-y/hare-y in appearance. Maybe instead of being xenophobic forest people with males who live to a point of seemingly not existing... they could be not that at all. Make them snow rabbits/hares or whatever.

Or not make them playable in the first place because rabbits and hares are horrible little monsters like mice.

[Anyan]

Seems like many on this thread assume that we choose the gender of our characters based on our sexual preferences.
I want to kindly remind you that there are people like me who choose to play the same gender as IRL just because it represents us better in the story.
I can't feel empathy for a character that's not close to me.

I get what you're saying, it can get really tiresome I know, but at the same time you just contradicted yourself a bit. You choose to play a character that represents you better in the story based mostly on gender. Others extend this to sexual preference. Both are just as valid. Sexuality doesn't need to be the main focus in this thread but it's understandable why it comes up. Especially when it seems like the producer himself makes in game decisions based on his. If only people would stop mocking, belittling, shaming or making fun of those that differ from themselves it doesn't even need to be a problem.

I 100% agree with you on the rest though. I don't mind sexy women (or men obviously) but it was strange to me how girly and seductive they chose to showcase them as at the Fan Fest. It was more of a giggling "come hither" feel than fierce warrior. I don't want this game to keep going in that direction.

[LeoGreenwood]

I've been doing the DRG quest this morning

[DevilsDontFly]

I don't understand why it seems like recently everything that is not a bodybuilder is considered a twink. lmao

But can we, like, leave sexual orientation discussions and etc away from this thread? It never ends well, it won't add anything relevant to the point of the thread and it'll only cause unecessary commotion.


Back on topic, if Hrothgar is definitely a thing, I really hope the females are all kinds of firce badass women. There are a lot of ways a woman can be beautiful, but it seems like SE only likes the cute-beautiful approach for female races in this game, even the Viera trailer is all about cutesy emotes and smiles and poses, when they could have showcased other emotes or facial expressions.

[Gwenorai]

I agree I'm all the Hrothgar females who are badasses. Especially if they're lions! In the animal kingdom, it's the ladies that do all the hard work. Fierce huntresses. But eh, the issue with this is that Miqo'te have the same thing going for them, and while you can still make a fierce-looking female miqo'te - most are just adorable and cute. Not amazonian fierce. The Viera was supposed to be that 'Amazonian Fierce' but they ended up being adorable.

[jameseoakes]

I agree I'm all the Hrothgar females who are badasses. Especially if they're lions! In the animal kingdom, it's the ladies that do all the hard work. Fierce huntresses. But eh, the issue with this is that Miqo'te have the same thing going for them, and while you can still make a fierce-looking female miqo'te - most are just adorable and cute. Not amazonian fierce. The Viera was supposed to be that 'Amazonian Fierce' but they ended up being adorable.

But seekers of the sun are based on lions, it seems a bit odd to me to add a new race using the theme of a race already in game. I assume they will have a different build but seems odd to get two new races both very close theme wise to the most popular in game race.