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    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    Because they aren't even done with fanfast paris? let alone fanfest Tokyo which they kiiiinda need new info at to get people hyped? Hello?
    None of this supports your argument of overreacting.
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    What a rollercoaster for everyone this will be lol. Clan and gender info still unknown hehe. Still wondering if the male might be the lion like race as suggested from a "possible" leak (could be wrong or not in the right context).
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    It's looking like female only to me. It's be in poor taste to not have a male model made already if they were going to be male and female. Especially after they showcased all female Viera.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    This is going to be an unpopular opinion, however, I can see why they would gender lock the Viera race. This would be because very few male Viera actually exist and they live in seclusion the majority of their lives. It would break immersion and their own lore to have a ton of Male Viera running around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    This is going to be an unpopular opinion, however, I can see why they would gender lock the Viera race. This would be because very few male Viera actually exist and they live in seclusion the majority of their lives. It would break immersion and their own lore to have a ton of Male Viera running around.
    Given the amount of female Miqo'te, I'm sure the numbers for female Viera would still far outweigh the number of male Viera, thus maintaining the immersion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    This is going to be an unpopular opinion, however, I can see why they would gender lock the Viera race. This would be because very few male Viera actually exist and they live in seclusion the majority of their lives. It would break immersion and their own lore to have a ton of Male Viera running around.
    It's pretty weak reasoning considering we have male Miqo'te and they are supposed to be rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    This is going to be an unpopular opinion, however, I can see why they would gender lock the Viera race. This would be because very few male Viera actually exist and they live in seclusion the majority of their lives. It would break immersion and their own lore to have a ton of Male Viera running around.
    A counter to this would be Moon Keeper Miqo'te, which are basically the same thing lore wise. The males are rare and secluded, only coming to the clans when it's time to reproduce. They also gave Sun Keepers a similar storyline where the Nunh's are basically stuck back at the tribe doing administration work and can rarely leave their duties, with the Tia's helping them and having similar restrictions. A good portion of the Titan build up handles this, and even in Stormblood we see that the males of traditional clans have very little freedom unless they're outcasts. Those who have left the clans are generally freer and we already know Viera have been known to leave, even if they do so only once in a blue moon. (Though that doesn't account for those who left and reproduced. So a stable population outside the Wood is very likely.)

    They already found a way to bend the lore for gameplay. Hell, they've bent the lore numerous times for the same of gameplay. It's already pretty well known that the lore team takes a back seat when necessary. So while I get your point, I don't see why this would be the hill they want to die on when they've caved on similar issues in the past.
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    Last edited by Enla; 02-02-2019 at 07:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    A counter to this would be Moon Keeper Miqo'te, which are basically the same thing lore wise. The males are rare and secluded, only coming to the clans when it's time to reproduce. They also gave Sun Keepers a similar storyline where the Nunh's are basically stuck back at the tribe doing administration work and can rarely leave their duties, with the Tia's helping them and having similar restrictions.

    They already found a way to bend the lore for gameplay. Hell, they've bent the lore numerous times for the same of gameplay. It's already pretty well known that the lore team takes a back seat when necessary. So while I get your point, I don't see why this would be the hill they want to die on when they've caved on similar issues in the past.
    As a follow up, they also create the lore, so it's their choice to make them a race with a "rare gender". Even if they were that way previously in other games, they've had no problems coming out to say that the Ivalice, Dalmasca, etc. of XIV are not the same ones of Tactics and 12. They could have easily tweaked the lore to make it more balanced, especially since they've already done the "m/f live separately" schtick with miqo'te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    This is going to be an unpopular opinion, however, I can see why they would gender lock the Viera race. This would be because very few male Viera actually exist and they live in seclusion the majority of their lives. It would break immersion and their own lore to have a ton of Male Viera running around.
    Male miqos are supposed to be rare in lore and they're one of (if not THE) most popular male player character combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    Male miqos are supposed to be rare in lore and they're one of (if not THE) most popular male player character combo
    You can't really control the players' choice of race and gender combination. However, FFXI did make a gender-locked race before. Two, actually. Galka were males only while Mithra were female only. Mithra having Viera's stipulation that males were rare and basically kept in villages for breeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    They revealed male and female Au Ra at the same time...
    Yup. That's why I said it'd be in very poor taste if it were planned to be male and female, but only show females, especially if it came down to "the males weren't finished yet." Base models should be done already. 5 months is not that long of a time in development for a game.
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