Gender locked race?

[Shippuu]

It doesn't make sense for them to repeat another snowy mountain zone when we already have Western and Central Coerthas, as well as Eureka Pagos.

Just stop dude, you're talking nonsense right now. The entirety of the Shroud zones around Gridania or the jungles of Eureka Anemos aren't preventing them from adding the Raktika Greatwood. Just like the numerous desert zones of of Thanalan and Gyr Abania aren't preventing them from adding this area

Au Ra coming to Eorzea made sense back then because anyone who looks at them automatically thinks lizard/demon/dragon people.

You have to be trolling at this point...


I'm not even gonna bother anymore.



In other news, Vermillion Cloak confirmed, adding some credibility to the latter discord leaks (emphasize "some", not much, since it was an easy item to guess given a minion already had it.)

[Tabbs]

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I don't know if you realize this... but it's theorizing. Not assuming. You're doing it every bit as anyone else here is in arguing against us. I specifically said I cannot confirm his claim, I was bringing up a separate point.

But like... the Empire is just gonna throw the powerful chemical weapon around willy nilly? Everywhere? Sure, it fit the whacky theme Solus has going, but...That seems extremely unlikey. They'll use it as a plot device a few times, but I sorely doubt they'll use it to excuse the presence of male Viera. Especially because we start our adventure well before any of this happens, in Eorzea. So it's no excuse as to why we wouldn't have left well before it happened (as a male Viera WoL). Regardless, we don't need to see the entirety of the area to assume a male Viera would pop up. It's their JOB to protect the forest. They don't do it at their leisure. If they're not showing up, they're not doing their job. Even further, their population may be small, but this is their TURF. This is where they're all condensed to. The chances of seeing one skyrocket significantly once you're actually in their territory, even if it's not the entirety of it. Their numbers aren't so small that you would NOT run into one whilst in the Golmore Jungle. Assuming they didn't just stay hidden, you'd absolutely run into at least one.

[Shougun]

It doesn't make sense for them to repeat another snowy mountain zone when we already have Western and Central Coerthas, as well as Eureka Pagos.

I'd be up for a very mountain peak zone to be honest. Coerthas doesn't really give that mountain feel imo, the scale isn't large enough . With our very large zones from 2.0+ and flying I believe we could see some VERY large mountains in game.

Also just playing that repeat visual card, we have (hunky started the train):

Gunblade job, with the famous griever on it based on a character with Lion in his name:

Center Stage Winged Lion (from the trailer that's selling the expansion, also in a dungeon like Kuribu):

Lamasu, a winged lion (shown either lion or bull parts) that I'd argue helped build Ronso/Griever (besides being inspiration for the above winged lion), part of the description is a guardian from evil magic built of stone before an area to protect it, relates to the zodiac:

Ronso, clearly inspired by Griever (inspired by Lamasu):

Kuribu:

Which Kuribu through google search lead me to Lamasu in the first place with some weird spellings (like "Kuribu" deep dive lead straight to Lamasu, which is, imo, clearly what the winged lion is). These Lamasu and Apsasu (strictly female lamasu) which inspired cherubim, and cherub being a bit angle like (like Kuribu) is also known to have a lion face/aspect (and eagle/ox):

So we're coming back around the mountain for some lions lol. Not that I think they'll literally be Ronso, but probably ronso-lion-like maybe even in lore. I just wanted to stuff as many lion refrences into the trailer as I could.

Also being of the zodiac might be importance with the whole Zodiark, Ascian ordeal. And maybe explain some of the power the white mages have, somehow? Of course FF always takes liberties with their references (which is cool). Also not claiming I found "thee" references, just possible ones I could make fit a narrative lol.

Or in otherwords, the trailer of shadowbringer has sold us three lion heavy laden elements - Lionheart's weapon/fighting style as a job, a literal winged lion (which inspired Griever) and which lore matches griever and ronso in some aspect, and then Kuribu which could have easily been inspired by the lore of Lamasu (via cherub) thus also a lion inspiration. Also the leaker didn't want to say more about the other race because of lore reasons, hmmmmmmmmm lol.

So shadowbringers trailer:
Lions 3
Viera 0


(yes, I am having fun XD)

[redcurrant18]

In other news, Vermillion Cloak confirmed, adding some credibility to the latter discord leaks (emphasize "some", not much, since it was an easy item to guess given a minion already had it.)

Credibility? There's NPCs in every city in FFXI who wear this cloak and the many variations of it. You don't have to be a leaker to predict this one at all. If this leaker was so in the know, why no news about Ozma being a mount? News like this would have made people way more excited than the few bits they did leak. Everyone loves Ozma. Surely they would have realized this.

Comparing Gridania's forest to the Greatwood is a bit of a stretch, seeing how it looks more like a jungle than anything else we've seen in the game so far. The same can be said about Thanalan and this new abandoned desert ruin. There are sand dunes only in a small part of Thanalan, not massive stretches of them. It would be really nice if they could do that for this new area to distinguish it more, along with the crystal wave. These areas remind me of Mobius FF, but seeing as how I don't play that broken loot box mess of a game, its nice that some similar environment designs are being put into a game that's actually worth playing.

So shadowbringers trailer:
Lions 3
Viera 0

You make some interesting points here, but again going solely based off trailers has led us all astray before like when people thought we were getting dancer after seeing Lyse. I like how in depth this is though, and it might mean that lions might be an important symbol/future beastman/playable race in the future. Each expansion has had a specific animal tied to it, like the dragons in Heavensward and the griffins in Stormblood. I still think it would be best for such a race to be released with both genders, and in an area that makes sense. They should have a habitat suited to their bodies, but what that could be I have no idea. It would be nice if in the far future we got areas based of off FFX, where that race might fit in better than in the ones shown off so far.

[MrKimper]

Credibility? There's NPCs in every city in FFXI who wear this cloak and the many variations of it. You don't have to be a leaker to predict this one at all. If this leaker was so in the know, why no news about Ozma being a mount? News like this would have made people way more excited than the few bits they did leak. Everyone loves Ozma. Surely they would have realized this.

Comparing Gridania's forest to the Greatwood is a bit of a stretch, seeing how it looks more like a jungle than anything else we've seen in the game so far. The same can be said about Thanalan and this new abandoned desert ruin. There are sand dunes only in a small part of Thanalan, not massive stretches of them. It would be really nice if they could do that for this new area to distinguish it more, along with the crystal wave. These areas remind me of Mobius FF, but seeing as how I don't play that broken loot box mess of a game, its nice that some similar environment designs are being put into a game that's actually worth playing.



You make some interesting points here, but again going solely based off trailers has led us all astray before like when people thought we were getting dancer after seeing Lyse. I like how in depth this is though, and it might mean that lions might be an important symbol/future beastman/playable race in the future. Each expansion has had a specific animal tied to it, like the dragons in Heavensward and the griffins in Stormblood. I still think it would be best for such a race to be released with both genders, and in an area that makes sense. They should have a habitat suited to their bodies, but what that could be I have no idea. It would be nice if in the far future we got areas based of off FFX, where that race might fit in better than in the ones shown off so far.

The other stuff he leaked also seems to be true as the othe rgear is in there.

[Nestama]

Credibility? There's NPCs in every city in FFXI who wear this cloak and the many variations of it.

It's called the Vermillion Cloak, which is a cloak in FFXI.


The other body piece for non-Casters is Kirin's Osode, also from FFXI.

[Flatopia]

"Should we add a male viera, something everyone has been clamoring for such a long time?"
"No, we should add more cat-people, introduce an entirely new race, make it male only to have more people acting like they want female ronso-like, not even call them ronso even though Viera were added name-and-all"
why do this?

[Crushnight]

Has the Kirin's Osode been datamined? as for vermillion cloak i wonder if that is pure glam or has eureka stats on it :s Also recently started playing ff11 that cloak is indeed all over the place on npcs so probably was easier to guess than others leak has more credibility not much but more than yesterday

[InkstainedGwyn]

Has the Kirin's Osode been datamined? as for vermillion cloak i wonder if that is pure glam or has eureka stats on it :s Also recently started playing ff11 that cloak is indeed all over the place on npcs so probably was easier to guess than others leak has more credibility not much but more than yesterday

Both the osode and cloak have eureka stats and 5 slots. The weapons (like shantotto's staff) are glams.

[Crushnight]

Both the osode and cloak have eureka stats and 5 slots. The weapons (like shantotto's staff) are glams.

that is odd especially for the vermillion cloak as that looks to be both head + body piece like ARR items which they haven't replicated since Darklight till now