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    kobe-sabi's Avatar
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    Ash Tikyrah
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 100

    we got a fourth tank

    to tell you the truth, this wont change much on dungeon tanking, people who dps will still wait 15 to 20 min. i been a tank since 2.3, i dragoon a bit got tired of the wait and switched to WAR/SCH mains. i use all tanks and healers because i love the quick queue times and the responsibility of keeping the pace as a tank or dpsing and keeping ppl alive as a healer. we will see alot more tanks if this job is flashy, easy to dps with, and my favorite has some gimmick that makes other tanks jealous.

    Myself i want all tanks to be great and i feel like WAR/PLD are in a great place and i hope they dont change as much or crossing my fingers....not all. the WAR/PLD are in a great place they should add to their kit or make old outdated skills be upgraded. Now DRK was my favorite in 3.0, it was challenging to play and made me feel warm inside to manage mp keep Darkside up 100%. it separated the less skilled DRK from the mediocre DRK but we will never see that return, moving on since we have a fourth tank DRK wont feel like a third wheel anymore and if done right should have its Meta work along side the Gunbreaker. you can either go the OG of tanks WAR/PLD or DRK/GUN, who knows we might see multiple mix ups, im just really happy DRK isn't a third wheel anymore.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by kobe-sabi View Post
    to tell you the truth, this wont change much on dungeon tanking, people who dps will still wait 15 to 20 min.
    But it should hopefully keep DPS queues from climbing to 50 minutes or even an hour+ at expac launch.

    And... honestly, I never liked the argument of "people won't change their main role" for not introducing new tanks/healers anyways. Blues and greens still deserve new content sometimes.
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I never liked the argument of "people won't change their main role" for not introducing new tanks/healers anyways.
    Yeah the same argument applies to adding new DPS... "people who will play DPS already are, so they don't need anymore classes, in fact lets remove all but DRG just because..." - flawed logic is flawed.

    For me the big drama is where in the MT-OT priority will gunfool fall? If this tank risks unseating WAR I'm going to have to level no matter how much I dislike the concept.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Yeah. It doesn't matter if DPS players swap over to tank and heal.

    The point of making new tanks and healers is so tanks and healers have more angles to play the game from.
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    kobe-sabi's Avatar
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    Ash Tikyrah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Yeah. It doesn't matter if DPS players swap over to tank and heal.

    The point of making new tanks and healers is so tanks and healers have more angles to play the game from.
    i love tanking and healing, the more i get to choose from the better, I just hope they dont take away from WAR/PLD and place it to DRK/GUN, since we know DRK is getting big changes next expansion. i would love to have WAR/DRK to get thier original stuns back along with some of their animations back.
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by kobe-sabi View Post
    since we know DRK is getting big changes next expansion.
    You mean the same "big changes" that were heavily ignored for DRG during Heavensward (their expansion) and Monks during this expansion? Or do you mean basically nerfing and laughing at the jobs until their expansion passed? Cause that's what I took from both HW and SB expansions respectively. . . >_>
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    Last edited by Elkanah; 02-05-2019 at 02:45 AM.

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    You mean the same "big changes" that were heavily ignored for DRG during Heavensward (their expansion) and Monks during this expansion? Or do you mean basically nerfing and laughing at the jobs until their expansion passed? Caused that's what I took from both HW and SB expansions respectively. . . >_>
    We can only hope regardless. But by "big" changes, I wouldn't expect DRK to be rebuilt from the ground up and they will retain some core features. We just have to hope that which remains unchanged is not anything that is currently an issue with the job, and the same goes for the other two tanks. Don't fix what doesn't need to be fixed. I am going to go ahead and keep hope alive that come July, DRK is going to feel really good to play. If they get dashed then so be it. *fingers crossed*
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    Ahri Eija
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    The question is why do we need a 4th tank ? What can he do that paladin, warrior or DRK can't do ? What special gameplay/style he has to interest us ?

    Right now he feel very classic, SE could have done a mage tank/summoner tank that use only magic spell to tank and DPS or use a summon to do the job ... but instead we just have a classic tank style.
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahrijlaken View Post
    The question is why do we need a 4th tank ?
    We don't. We don't need any new classes/jobs at all. None of the new jobs added in HW or SB have been needed.

    But that is the wrong question to ask. The correct question to ask is "Will this new job be fun to play?". If the answer is "yes", then that is as good a reason as any to add a new job.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahrijlaken View Post
    The question is why do we need a 4th tank ? What can he do that paladin, warrior or DRK can't do ? What special gameplay/style he has to interest us ?

    Right now he feel very classic, SE could have done a mage tank/summoner tank that use only magic spell to tank and DPS or use a summon to do the job ... but instead we just have a classic tank style.
    No. God no. Please SE never add a job to this game that has a summoned minion do the tanking. I would not want to deal with a tank who has to tell a summon where to go and how to position things etc even if the player was directly controlling the summon's cooldowns for tankbusters etc.

    As for 'needing' it, no we don't need a new tank but we didn't 'need' a third casting dps either, the game doesn't 'need' jobs of any specific role at this point.
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