Thread: Relic Idea for 5.0

They could try something that hasn't been done since ARR - they could try making it fun.

Honestly, Eureka is probably one of the better designed ways of getting a Relic weapon. You know, outside of the fact that Eureka is in of itself, horrible content.

Anyway... My 2 gil on the topic:

Creating a Relic weapon should be achievable through varied methods. Given that it's "The Grind" that draws in a bunch of people because of it being a constantly upgrading weapon throughout an expansion as well as a shiny unique glamour at the end that will last throughout future expansions.

So, something akin to the Sand part of the HW relic, where along with the (Egregious) amount of Umbrite, you also had to collect stuff to trade for equal amounts of Crystal Sand. With the items you could turn in being varied, such as Crafting or Gathering Scrips, Amber Encased Vilekin from Leves, Demimateria, items from EX Trials or Raids etc.

This would mean that the grind would be reduced, by the fact that people would be able to do the content they want to do and still be progressing through it. You wouldn't feel forced into say, spending 1000 hours per day in Eureka, or spamming Tam-Tara 900000 times to farm light, unless you actually wanted to.

In addition to a more flexible grind, what could also be neat is locking each stage of the weapon behind a Masked Carnivale style encounter. So that you have some interesting but somewhat challenging content to overcome, as well as some story to go along with your weapon. Which would help make the item feel more rewarding to obtain (As opposed to "You need to make the soul of the weapon stronger by fighting tough enemies!" > *Goes to farm level 15 dungeon unsync'd a million times*)

So yeah...

I vote for some flexible grinds, so that you can progress with a variety of content. I'd also like to see the stages function differently to each other such as with the ARR/HW relics rather than be the same old thing only in a newer and shittier zone as with Eureka. Finally, with unique encounters to advance each stage, with associated story, to make the weapons feel more epic to acquire.

As far as the item level goes, well... Being able to work on something competitive would be cool, without it just being outclassed by raid weapons outright, but also without being too easy to get and thus invalidate raid weapons. It's an odd one to balance. Since, on the one hand, they're grindy weapons and supposedly very powerful or legendary so would make sense to be the pinnacle weapons for the expansion if you can tough out the grind. On the other hand, actually completing 24 man raid content is more challenging than just grinding for weeks in some snoozefest area of the game...

I suppose you could make the argument that if the relic weapons stayed on par with the ilevel of the current tier of raid weapons, with Savage raids also giving items that can be used to boost the relic up to Savage ilevel (Or even higher) that could work. So raiders would get faster weapons, but still have incentive to farm out relics for better stat distributions (And/or slight item level boosts) if they are willing to put in the time to grind. Meanwhile non-Savage raiders would be able to stay on par with normal raiders weapons but wouldn't get to surpass Savage raiders.