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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    Two people above me responded with a note about tank swaps... a note that was already in the OP...
    I'm not talking about swaps. I'm talking about an off-tank Provoking and then immediately Shirking the main tank to give the MT free enmity. That's not a swap.

    I believe that is fairly common in 8-man content so that the MT doesn't have to do things like aggro combos or going into tank stance to keep the DPS from ripping aggro. I know my static's tanks have specific points in fights where the OT Provokes > immediately Shirks the MT purely so that our MT doesn't have to go into Defiance.

    Thereby, it is part of a tank's rotation when there are not any upcoming swaps that would need an OT Provoke and an MT Shirk to the OT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    yes Provoke+ shirk is used to get a boost of aggro for MT
    but its not apart of a rotation its be like saying Esuna or raise is apart of a healers rotation

    heres a example of a rotation
    Not quite the same. Provoke+Shirk is free enmity generation for the MT, and it should be used by tanks in higher end content. The timings vary depending on a fight and what the tanks are doing, but I wouldn't call it a situational ability like a healer having to Raise/Esuna - in an ideal situation, there is no Raise in a fight, and Esuna is useless in high-end content anyways because debuffs/DoTs are rarely cleansable.

    OP said it should be saved purely for swaps or picking up adds, but that's not true in high-end content. Tanks don't normally sit on it waiting for a swap or for an add to appear (or they shouldn't anyways); if there's enough time between an upcoming swap, they use it to give their co-tank free enmity so that the co-tank doesn't have to go into stance or do an aggro combo.

    I believe tanks in raiding situations have "Provoke+Shirk rotations" just like they "cooldown rotations" - the timings vary but it's still used. It's not just sat on. You're thinking "rotation" as in "1-2-3 rotation" or opener sequences, but I'm not talking about just that - I'm talking about the overall rotation for an entire fight.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 01-31-2019 at 08:43 PM.
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