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  1. #31
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    Ku Rando
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
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    I'm doubting it's as easy as you say, otherwise they would of done it a long time ago. It was like the case with Leeches, SE couldn't make the level to use it lower for SCH so instead they opted to make Esuna a cross role action instead accessable to all the healers. Previously SCH had no way to use Leeches in synced content under lvl 30 unless Arcanist was allowed to use it as well, and that wasn't going to happen. They could move Rez to SCH only actions, but the lvl required would still be 30 or over so it's the same situation.
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  2. #32
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    Flutter Butter
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    SE is also already talking about splitting SCH away from ARC/SMN anyway, as it's the only class you get a "freebie" from levelling the other. They'd most likely keep ARC/SMN as the class/job, and make SCH something you pick up at 30, like AST, etc.
    I'd be very much for this. I enjoy playing as summoner too and it would be nice to level it separately.
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  3. #33
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    Inglis Eucus
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    I heard rumor they was going to force you to watch cut scenes and not let you skip them anymore for every duty.
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  4. #34
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    Videra Svenay
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    Warrior Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I heard rumor they was going to force you to watch cut scenes and not let you skip them anymore for every duty.
    Honestly, I wouldn't put it past Yoshi-P and his team.
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  5. #35
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    Leidri'sae Bherre
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    Siren
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    My hope is RDM gets some sort of upkeep buff, like En-Spells. Adding magic potency to your autos/weaponskills, and making them generate mana of the given type. As an example, they could have Enthunder and Enaero as short-cooldown abilities that can only be used under procs. Enthunder could proc off Impact and Verfire, and Enaero could proc off Impact and Verstone. From there you get an extra layer of optimization for RDM, in extra proc/balance management and melee uptime. Plus, it would speed up access to our melee combo a bit, helping us align with the party's burst phases better.
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  6. #36
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    It would be amusing to see what would happen if everyone that wasn't a healer lost raise.

    And then Bard got raise. Just as a little bit of salt in the wound.
    I mean, our LB3 back in ARR used to be a healer LB. I'd rather have that back tbh; not like we get many instances where we get to use our LB3 short of stealing it from someone in a 24-man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    DoTs are a simple way of evening out damage gradients, and go some way to leveling the dps playing field without overtly effecting skill level.
    They're not necessary, especially for quick classes like RDM or NIN, or BRD, but they have them anyway.
    Given BRD's current implementation, its DoTs are 100% necessary for it to function. They're deeply integrated in a BRD's rotation and are not just "press this button"/"zero maintenance required" skills. They make up quite a bit of our personal damage (along with oGCD usage), and they also interact with our songs to give Repertoire, which give us things like Pitch Perfect and Bloodletter procs. Not to mention Sidewinder's damage is based off of if you actually have your DoTs applied to a target -- 260 potency if both are up, 175 if only one is up, and 100 if neither are up.

    So, yeah they are a bit necessary for BRD and have always been ingrained in their rotation (before it was just with the River of Blood trait for 50% chance to reproc Bloodletter/RoD upon dealing critical damage). We'd be gutted otherwise because we'd lose the DoT damage but also the ability to proc multiple PPs in Minuet, Bloodletter/Rain of Death in Mage's Ballad, and Sidewinder's increased potency.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 01-31-2019 at 08:26 PM.
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  7. #37
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    SE is also already talking about splitting SCH away from ARC/SMN anyway, as it's the only class you get a "freebie" from levelling the other. They'd most likely keep ARC/SMN as the class/job, and make SCH something you pick up at 30, like AST, etc.
    They've been talking about it since HW, never anything more than "maybe."
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  8. #38
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I mean, our LB3 back in ARR used to be a healer LB. I'd rather have that back tbh; not like we get many instances where we get to use our LB3 short of stealing it from someone in a 24-man.



    Given BRD's current implementation, its DoTs are 100% necessary for it to function. They're deeply integrated in a BRD's rotation and are not just "press this button"/"zero maintenance required" skills. They make up quite a bit of our personal damage (along with oGCD usage), and they also interact with our songs to give Repertoire, which give us things like Pitch Perfect and Bloodletter procs. Not to mention Sidewinder's damage is based off of if you actually have your DoTs applied to a target -- 260 potency if both are up, 175 if only one is up, and 100 if neither are up.

    So, yeah they are a bit necessary for BRD and have always been ingrained in their rotation (before it was just with the River of Blood trait for 50% chance to reproc Bloodletter/RoD upon dealing critical damage). We'd be gutted otherwise because we'd lose the DoT damage but also the ability to proc multiple PPs in Minuet, Bloodletter/Rain of Death in Mage's Ballad, and Sidewinder's increased potency.
    They're only necessary because they're ingrained within it's mechanics.

    You'd say the same for RDM if Veraero and Verthunder were DoTs and generated 1 mana per tick instead of 11 mana in one go.
    You could just as easily turn BRD's DoTs into frontloaded single hits that give you a crit bonus for x amount of seconds and automatically trigger a songs effect instead of only triggering it when the DoT crits.
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    Is there any rumor of them combining healers and support DPS into a new Support/Utility role to replace Healer role? I think that's a better fit for Dancer than a pure Healer role.
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  10. #40
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Is there any rumor of them combining healers and support DPS into a new Support/Utility role to replace Healer role? I think that's a better fit for Dancer than a pure Healer role.
    I think DNC can still be in the Healer role without being a "pure healer". I think AST is the closest to what you're talking about, but it's still classified as a healer despite providing some of the biggest damage buffs (e.g., Balance, Arrow, and to a lesser extend Spear). SCH has quite a bit of utility itself. The only healer the Devs seem to insist on remaining a "pure healer" is WHM.
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