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    Parisbringer - European fan fest hype and speculation

    Okay we are now a week away before The Fan Fest goes to Paris. Hopefully it will be better than when Harry Potter did the same. Anyroad the opening keynote will be way over an hour so we can expect lots of new info about Final Fantasy: The Crimes of Solus.

    New race: Well we already know it will be the Viera, but it will be likely unveiled officially here. The good part is that we never saw any male viera before. Ever. So this might be a first time.

    Also worth noting is that all the races were originally a single race that got fragmented. With Viera we will have seven playable races. Beside the universal lack of butts, they are supposed to have their own unique faults. Representatives of the seven deadly sins perhaps? Lala are greed definitely.

    New Jobs: We will have three new jobs. Obviously. Each game release since 1.0 had three new jobs. ARR had Scholar, Summoer and Ninja. HW had Dark Knight, Astrologian and Machinist. SB had Samurai, Red Mage and Blue Mage (Yes, yes, limited job, who cares.) So it stands for reason that during the whole 5.X cycle we will also reach 3 jobs. Normal or limited.

    Since SB released only DPS jobs, it stands for reason that we will get tanks and healers. If we do get a DPS job it will probably be a ranged physical DPS job, as that is the role with the least jobs in it.

    So far we have seen the addition of six DPS jobs, two healers and a single tank. Even as a DPS main I think this is too much, so I wouldn't mind if we didn't get any DPS at all.

    The gunblade job was very heavily hinted in the last fanfest and will most likely be unveiled now. I guarantee everyone will main one, cause gunblades are awesome. We have no idea of knowing the name. But what of the role? DPS seems to be a very obvious route, but as I explained we have enough DPS now. And two of the three DPS realeased in SB wielded swords. So tank? Maybe. But we already have two parry tanks (warrior and dark knight). And two sword wielding tanks (Paladin and dark knight). If it can bring something new to the table, I'm all for it. But if not, we would be better off with an evasion tank and Gunblader being a healer. That might sound dumb, but I like crazy classes.

    So what level will the new jobs start at? A good question, isn't it? Let's see the levels added in each game. ARR added 100 (50 for ninja and 50 for summoner/scholar). HW added 10 levels for all previous disciplines (20 disciplines so 200) plus 30 for the new jobs. That's 290 levels to gain. SB added another 10 levels to the 23 disciplines, 20 levels for the full jobs, and 50 to Blue Mage. That is 320 Levels. Seven Hells! Now assuming Blue is pushed to 60, we get 10 levels to all the 26 disciplines. That is 260.
    If we want to have as many levels to gain as Heavensward, we need 30 more levels. Since we know we are going to get 3 jobs, that means 10 levels for each. Sort of makes sense as the levels gained were decreasing by ten, with every expansion. So they could start at level 70 ready to go into the Shadowbringer content. Would make sense if we go where I think we will go.


    Place: For a long time we were sure that we would be going to Garlemald. But now it seems more and more likely that we will actually be visiting another shard. Maybe the first shhard where the Warriors of Dorkness are from. If so, goodbye Allagan Tomestones. You don't even exist in this universe.

    The Bad guy: We don't really know yet, but it will be either. Elidibus in Zenos' body. Zenos in the Elezen body, Emet-Selch in Solus' body. Or hell even Elidibus in one of the Solus clones ready for takeover.

    Or somebody out of the left field. Somebody further out from the left field than even Solus was. Like idunno, freakin Lahabrea. Everything is possible at this point.

    Beast tribes: We got to get another one. Fingers crossed for the PuuPuu.

    Raid: No idea but I hope it will be an actual raid this time and not a series of arena fights like Omega. That sucked.

    Alliance Raid: Hell if I know, but it will be very lore heavy.

    Trial series: No info but having the four fiends finally, would be nice.

    New Primals: If we go into another shard I would very much like to see different variations of the classic primals like Ifrit and Leviathan. If we get totally new ones, I vote for Anima. Hmmmm wonder what beast tribe would summon her. Which race loves S&M?

    The gimmick: Well HW had flying, SB had swimming. No idea for Crimes of Solus. Will we even have one? The Doman reconstruction might be a prototype for base building. Like WoW Garrisons, only better. Eureka and Masked Carnival could be an experiment for elemental attacks.

    After playing the new season of Mobius Final Fantasy where you can do attacks with your sub job without actually switching to it, I wondered if something like that could be possible for FFXIV. You know you pick a sub job and if some conditions are met you just temporarily switch out mid combat. Like the WoL in the trailer. That would be cool.

    New Gold Saucer Attraction:
    ARR added the whole bloody thing. HW added Lords of Verminion. SB added fashion shows and Mahjong. What do you think? Will we finally get blitzball? Or will we just get a different casino in the new Shard? Serendipity does have Chocobo racing, slot machines and poker.

    So what do you all think? What are you looking forward to the most?

    EDIT: I'm dumb and forgot an important question

    New Cities: After Revenant's Toll, The Holy See, Idyllshire, Kugane, the Doman Enclave and Rhalgr's Reach where will we waste time waiting for ques to pop? If we go to Ilsabard I would guess places like Midgar, Deling or even Zozo. If we go to the shard, all bets are off. My two personal favorites would be Wutai and Mysidia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Also worth noting is that all the races were originally a single race that got fragmented. With Viera we will have seven playable races. Beside the universal lack of butts, they are supposed to have their own unique faults. Representatives of the seven deadly sins perhaps? Lala are greed definitely.
    That is not a fact. It is a claim by a villain who may or may not be stating the truth, and may or may not have been told the truth in the first place.

    Even if it is true, I greatly doubt any intended connection to the "seven sins" that would only last until they decide to add another race.

    (Despite the "possible last race" claims about Viera, I predict an eventual total of eight - assuming no updates to the character creator system, and possibly no "split gender races". Eight being the largest number that can be transmitted with the same number of data bits required to store the original choice of numbers 1-5.)
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    I can't wait to be disappointed in real time by the lack of a new tank reveal. At like four in the morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    So what level will the new jobs start at? A good question, isn't it? Let's see the levels added in each game. ARR added 100 (50 for ninja and 50 for summoner/scholar). HW added 10 levels for all previous disciplines (20 disciplines so 200) plus 30 for the new jobs. That's 290 levels to gain. SB added another 10 levels to the 23 disciplines, 20 levels for the full jobs, and 50 to Blue Mage. That is 320 Levels. Seven Hells! Now assuming Blue is pushed to 60, we get 10 levels to all the 26 disciplines. That is 260.
    If we want to have as many levels to gain as Heavensward, we need 30 more levels. Since we know we are going to get 3 jobs, that means 10 levels for each. Sort of makes sense as the levels gained were decreasing by ten, with every expansion. So they could start at level 70 ready to go into the Shadowbringer content. Would make sense if we go where I think we will go.
    If it follows Stormblood's pattern, then new jobs will start at 60 and level boost will be to 70 (maybe they will have both 60 and 70 boosts).

    The only thing is if they want to have the new jobs start in ARR place again, then requirement for new job might be to have another job to 50 again, so new job might start at 50 if they don't want player to suddenly gain 10 levels.

    Actually, I'd like it if jobs can start at 1 and you can create a character with that job as long as you have purchased and installed Shadowbringers, but that may be too much work for them to add all the quests. (And while they're at it, might as well reset all the class quests so they can add them as future jobs instead.)

    I'd also like it if dancer is a DPS rather than a healer.
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    Really doubt we see 3 jobs for Shadowbringers and hopefully no new DPS, there's enough of them for now as it is and I hope the new jobs would start at lvl 30 but that's unlikely so hopefully at lvl 50 then.

    Still expecting to disappointed with Gunblade job announced as another DPS...(pls be a tank).

    So far this expansion looks like an Ivalice expansion area and race wise which I don't mind but I hope we get to see Ilsabard areas in this Fan Fest (unless the areas they showed at Las Vegas were in Ilsabard, unlikely but still), and not something like another shard or something bleh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    The gunblade job was very heavily hinted in the last fanfest and will most likely be unveiled now. I guarantee everyone will main one, cause gunblades are awesome.
    More like people will main that if the gameplay is good. And that there will be a lot of them if it is a dps job, not a tank one with "responsabilities". There is already gunblades for MCH, and you dont see a lot of them around despite gunblades being awesome XD
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    Given the hints to more Ivalice in the MSQ and last tier of RtI, I'm hoping the raid story gets either a continuation in the next 24-man, or does the unthinkable and bleeds into the MSQ (given we've had Viera all but confirmed as the next race and we get a lot of Viera lore in RtI, just as an example).

    Also hoping the new classes are tank and healer (Gunblade tank and Dancer healer, I'll even take Dancer as a melee-ranged support DPS), we were teased the Ishgard reconstruction so I want to see how that develops. Mostly, I'm keeping expectations low...
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    I'm expecting a full viera reveal and the gunblade job(Magitek Knight, Judge, w/e) as a tank, maybe more details about exactly where we're going. I can also see Yoshida walking around in a Men Without Hats(group that did Safety Dance) shirt as a hint.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    we were teased the Ishgard reconstruction so I want to see how that develops. Mostly, I'm keeping expectations low...
    It was arguably teased in the MSQ, with Varis insisting to Aymeric that the failure of Thordan and the Dragonsong War left Ishgard as a ruined nation of bickering nobles that has no future. I don't see best boy taking that laying down.

    My absolute wildest dream is that the reconstruction includes the establishment of an Ishgardian Grand Company that we can join.
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    I was wondering when this thread would pop up actually. With all the other threads (mostly about BLU) flying around, I was beginning to wonder if anyone was aware that we're only a week off from the next fanfest here. I'm somewhat excited at the upcoming news, but I'm not going to keep my hopes up high.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    The gunblade job was very heavily hinted in the last fanfest and will most likely be unveiled now. I guarantee everyone will main one, cause gunblades are awesome.
    Just want to quick point out that not everyone thinks that gunblades are the most awesome weapon in existence. I know I've seen the occasional poster on here who's said that gunblades are stupid. Personally, I don't mind. But it's not my top favorite weapon either, despite being a sword. Now... swords that shoot waves on the other hand...

    Anyway, I don't know entirely what they intend to cover at this fanfest of course, but I do expect the following:

    1: Viera revealed as the new race: I mean, it's all but officially confirmed at this point. May as well reveal the race and let us see what they'll look like here in FFXIV.

    2: "Gunblade" revealed as a Tank: With the introduced "Trust" system, the fact that Thancred got another makeover and is picking up a gunblade, AND the fact that the Scions lack a go to Tank member among their group, I'm 99% certain that Gunblade is going to be a Tank at this point. I may cry fowl if it's a DPS somehow.

    3: Some possible info dump about the new endgame content for Crafters and Gatherers come 5.0, along with maybe a 5.0 Primal reveal.

    4: A shirt teaser for Dancer for the Japanese fanfest. (I'll be surprised if Dancer isn't at least teased at this fanfest)

    Anything else they show off for this upcoming fanfest... I'll be pleasantly surprised by. Or maybe disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Eight being the largest number that can be transmitted with the same number of data bits required to store the original choice of numbers 1-5.)
    Really? Didn't know this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    I can't wait to be disappointed in real time by the lack of a new tank reveal. At like four in the morning.
    4 in the morning? Yikes. As for tank reveals, it has to happen. With ARR included, we had 9 jobs added. 6 DPS, 2 Healers and just a single tank. I don't even like tanking and I think this is bad. We should get like two tanks and a healer this X-pack.
    If ninja gets a fourth mundra, I consider DPS having enough new toys.

    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
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    Actually, I'd like it if jobs can start at 1 and you can create a character with that job as long as you have purchased and installed Shadowbringers, but that may be too much work for them to add all the quests.
    Unlikely. They didn't even do that with Rogue. You can't pick it during character creation.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruebladeNuke View Post
    I was wondering when this thread would pop up actually. With all the other threads (mostly about BLU) flying around, I was beginning to wonder if anyone was aware that we're only a week off from the next fanfest here.
    I was definitely aware. And was planning to make this thread for quite a while now.
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