SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[Thamorian]

IDC the site but this is the one thing i hate and it should not be allowed.

Not allowed based on what? They aren't asking you for your SE login. Only thing are doing is taking public information and compiling it. Sucks its not the other way around where you have to create an account to enable logs, but they aren't doing anything illegal.

[Paladinleeds]

The only change I would advocate for is to make it opt-in (perhaps using just the name of the job for those who don't opt-in), but it absolutely should NOT be taken down. Either a different site will pop up like people said, or you lose anyone with interest in their DPS numbers, which will be a very sizeable chunk of the playerbase. Would FFXIV survive that? Probably, but that's still a huge wad of cash SE are losing. So it's not in their business interests to take down the site.

[Baalfrog]

Do you have any proof to back up these accusations?

I have. If you read what the op said, it is pretty toxic, reeks of poison fumes.

Edit: NVM! Looked at op's logs, he cant be serious.

Also...

The only change I would advocate for is to make it opt-in (perhaps using just the name of the job for those who don't opt-in), but it absolutely should NOT be taken down. Either a different site will pop up like people said, or you lose anyone with interest in their DPS numbers, which will be a very sizeable chunk of the playerbase. Would FFXIV survive that? Probably, but that's still a huge wad of cash SE are losing. So it's not in their business interests to take down the site.

Opt-in isn't good, because transparency is good. If you tackle content you are logged in on a regular basis, they can be used for fast checking to see if the player in question is good for the Ex farm or Weekly savage pugs or whatever it is you do. If you want to hide your logs, thats also fine, people just will be suspicious about it. And if it was opt-in, people would just do the same thing, no logs? Well, something fishy is going on, and the results would be the same.

And when it comes to harassment and toxicity and whatever, everything, EVERYTHING can be misused. Look at Youtube as an example, vast majority don't use it for toxic and bad behaviour, but some still do, so maybe we should shut it down too?

[Lastelli]

If you're serious...this is so sad.

[Endeleon]

As much as I am not a minmaxing stat person, how in the world is The Balance a toxic community? Also if you are scared about your name being on FFlogs, they have options for you to hide your character.

[Nedkel]

Who are "the balance"?
Am i the only one who never heard of them before?

[KaijinRhada]

The Balance isn't at all toxic, and I have never seen indications of it being otherwise. Like many theorycrafting communities, it's been very helpful and supportive of people that want to learn.

[Baalfrog]

Who are "the balance"?
Am i the only one who never heard of them before?

They are the toxic vermin who hide in private discord servers!

(actually its just a discord server for FF14 where people just talk about how to play classes and such, not really toxic at all or anything)

[EorzeaHero69]

They are aware of people using parsers but they only time they take action against them is when the parsers diss people about their dps with numbers.

[Rhus]

This a troll thread?